Area Question: Solving for the Area Between a Parabola and Axes

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In summary, the question involves finding the parameters b and c for a parabola with one x-intercept at (1,0) and an area between the parabola and the x and y axes equal to the area between the parabola and the x axis. The solution involves factoring the function and using integrals to solve for a. The use of tex code makes it easier to read and the second possibility is explained in detail. The method of [0-f(x)]dx may result in an incorrect area of zero.
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i added 2 files with the question and the way i tried to solve it
it messes up and nothing come out

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the question is:

parabula y=x^2 +b*x+c cuts the X axes in two points
one of them is (1,0)
the area between the parabula the X and Y axes equals to the area between the parabula and theX axes

i showed it all in the file it includes a graph

please help
 

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What, exactly, are you asking?
 
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I am asking how can isolve this question
and find the b, c parameters?
 
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Okay, I didn't see your last question on "page 2".

I notice that you are integrating from 0 to 1. Why? Clearly the "other" point at which the parabola crosses the x-axis is NOT "0". You are told that one x-intercept is x= 1 so you know that the function factors as (x-1)(x- a) for some number a. a is the other x-intercept and the area is the integral from a to 1 or 1 to a, depending upon which is positive.

(x-1)(x- a)= x2-(1+a)x+ a= x2+ bx+ c so b= -1-a and c= a.

The "area between the parabola and the x and y axes" is either
[tex]/int_0^1 x^2- (1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if 1< a or
[tex]/int_0^a x^2- (1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if a< 1.

Similarly, the area between the parabola is either
[tex]\int_1^a x2-(1+a)x+ a dx[/itex]
if 1< a or
[tex]\int_a^1 x2-(1+a)x+ a dx[/itex]
if a< 1.

Try both possiblilites and see if you can solve for a. Then of course use b=-1-a and c= a.
 
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you devided the answers into 2 possiblities
depending if the parbula is positive or negative
if a>1
or a<1
however the direction of the parabule is always towards the positive
part of the Y axes

because the coefficient of X^2 is 1
it cannot flip to the opposite side

?
 
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what is that sigh
or int??

regarding the question why i have an integral from 0 to 1
it is one of the areas

the second area is between 1 and the second point

what is that sigh
or int??
 
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HallsofIvy said:
(x-1)(x- a)= x^2-(1+a)x+ a= x^2+ bx+ c so b= -1-a and c= a.

The "area between the parabola and the x and y axes" is either
[tex]\int_0^1 x^2- (1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if 1< a or
[tex]\int_0^a x^2- (1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if a< 1.

Similarly, the area between the parabola is either
[tex]\int_1^a x^2-(1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if 1< a or
[tex]\int_a^1 x^2-(1+a)x+ a dx[/tex]
if a< 1.

Try both possiblilites and see if you can solve for a. Then of course use b=-1-a and c= a.

The int and sup are tex code to make it easy to read. maybe this will be clearer now
 
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on the second possibility when i check the area between 1 and a
this area is under the X axes line
aren"t we suppose to do [ 0-f(x) ] dx

if i do mesure the are by this [ 0-f(x) ] dx method
i get that the area equals to zero
??

why it is wronge?
 
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Related to Area Question: Solving for the Area Between a Parabola and Axes

1. How do I find the area between a parabola and the axes?

To find the area between a parabola and the axes, you can use the formula A = ∫(b-a) f(x) dx, where a and b are the x-intercepts of the parabola and f(x) is the equation of the parabola. Alternatively, you can also use the formula A = (1/3)bh, where b is the base of the parabola and h is the height of the parabola at its highest point.

2. What is the importance of finding the area between a parabola and the axes?

Finding the area between a parabola and the axes is important because it allows us to calculate the total area enclosed by a curve, which can have real-world applications in fields such as engineering, physics, and economics.

3. Can the area between a parabola and the axes be negative?

No, the area between a parabola and the axes cannot be negative. The area is always a positive value, as it represents the amount of space enclosed by the curve and the axes.

4. How can I graphically visualize the area between a parabola and the axes?

You can graphically visualize the area between a parabola and the axes by plotting the curve on a coordinate plane and shading in the area between the curve and the x-axis. This will give you a visual representation of the area enclosed by the parabola and the axes.

5. Is there a specific method for solving for the area between a parabola and the axes?

There are multiple methods for solving for the area between a parabola and the axes, such as using integration or basic geometry formulas. The method you choose will depend on the given information and your personal preference. However, the most common methods involve using integration to find the area under the curve or using the formula A = (1/3)bh to find the area of the enclosed triangle.

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