Americans: Stereotypes, Not So Obese, Poor Drivers, Rude & Greedy

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In summary: American cars. Most Americans are NOT friendly. Ask them "hey, how's it going?" and you'll either get ignored or flipped off, unless you're bagging their groceries (had someone flip me off once where I worked... there were egg yolks and shells everywhere. I called it an "accident"... good times...)
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Char. Limit
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Why are there so many stereotypes of Americans today?

Oops, asked an obvious question...

Anyway, to affirm the stereotypes that I can remember at 3 in the morning...

I only weigh 130 lbs or so (for the non-americans, either 60 or 286 kgs, I can't remember which way the conversion factor goes). Not obese. This is the one false stereotype of America.

Americans are NOT good drivers, not in the slightest. I should know, I have to get cut off, flipped off, and generally ignored by them... EVERY DAY!

*puts a "rant" sticker at beginning of post*

Also, if you have any stereotypes about Americans being rude, keep them: we are. Totally and completely.

Finally, Americans are greedy. Had someone try to shoplift and another say she gave the wrong bill (a 50 instead of a 10? come on) at the store I work at.

Ok, rant over. Sorry, but it's 3 in the morning and I had to tell someone...
 
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Char. Limit said:
I only weigh 130 lbs or so (for the non-americans, either 60 or 286 kgs, I can't remember which way the conversion factor goes). Not obese. This is the one false stereotype of America.
"Americans can't understand the metric system."
 
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Char. Limit said:
Why are there so many stereotypes of Americans today?

Oops, asked an obvious question...

Anyway, to affirm the stereotypes that I can remember at 3 in the morning...

I only weigh 130 lbs or so (for the non-americans, either 60 or 286 kgs, I can't remember which way the conversion factor goes). Not obese. This is the one false stereotype of America.

Americans are NOT good drivers, not in the slightest. I should know, I have to get cut off, flipped off, and generally ignored by them... EVERY DAY!

*puts a "rant" sticker at beginning of post*

Also, if you have any stereotypes about Americans being rude, keep them: we are. Totally and completely.

Finally, Americans are greedy. Had someone try to shoplift and another say she gave the wrong bill (a 50 instead of a 10? come on) at the store I work at.

Ok, rant over. Sorry, but it's 3 in the morning and I had to tell someone...

Also, Americans are friendly. And they tend to live in North America.
 
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Chi Meson said:
"Americans can't understand the metric system."

Hey, I use meters, liters, and metric units all the time... I just think in g, not kg.

However, most Americans indeed cannot.

Most Americans are NOT friendly. Ask them "hey, how's it going?" and you'll either get ignored or flipped off, unless you're bagging their groceries (had someone flip me off once where I worked... there were egg yolks and shells everywhere. I called it an "accident"... good times...)
 
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Char. Limit said:
Hey, I use meters, liters, and metric units all the time... I just think in g, not kg.
You think in grams, but you cannot convert that to kilograms? You must be joking.
 
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Well, grams are so different from pounds (whats the ratio? 500 to 1?) that for my science classes (where we measure stuff and I've never had it weigh more than 250 g) I think in g, but in everyday life I think in pounds.

Btw, after looking at it again, I'm pretty sure it's the 60.

But I can convert other units just fine... I know there are about 39 inches in a meter, and I've almost abandoned the gallon... I also remember g=9.8 m/s^2, and I don't even know the American conversion for that figure.

I just can't throw away my "lbs".
 
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I use both metric (SI, mks) and English (ft-lb-hr) system, but I prefer metric.
 
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I find myself accidentally using metric on occasion. These physics classes are wearing on me. None of my friends have any clue what I'm talking about when I say a car accident happened just 3 meters in front of me.
 
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Char. Limit said:
Most Americans are NOT friendly. Ask them "hey, how's it going?" and you'll either get ignored or flipped off, unless you're bagging their groceries (had someone flip me off once where I worked... there were egg yolks and shells everywhere. I called it an "accident"... good times...)

If only more Americans could be as friendly and forgiving as you!:smile:
 
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Americans can't spell properly either. Colour.
 
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Americans never use adverbs it's actually really cold today, not "real cold today".

I could go on, but I won't :wink:

As for your observations on Americans being rude, they don't agree with my observations. From my experience, your average store clerk in the US is way more friendly and engaging than the equivalent in the UK, for example. I guess you've got to go out of the US to really see whether these stereotypes are true.
 
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Maybe East Coast Americans are unfriendly and rude. Midwesterners are usually friendly people (and somewhat friendly drivers).

Americans are lousy drivers. That's driven by the technology of their cars. Drivers of cars with automatic transmissions find it hard not to become distracted by the cell phones, CD players, make-up mirrors, air conditioning system, etc. American cars have turned into living rooms.

The American stereotype of obesity must be true. It's hard to shop for clothes when you're skinnier than the average American.

I don't think Italian store clerks are any ruder than American store clerks. My experiences may be non-typical, seeing as how I was virtually illiterate when it came to Italian and probably just didn't understand that they were making fun of me instead of being friendly.
 
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Ask them "hey, how's it going?" and you'll either get ignored or flipped off
I don't think that's true. My friend is kinda crazy and he says "hi" to random people all the time. From what I've seen, he gets a friendly response about half the time and ignored half the time. But just because he gets ignored doesn't mean they're necessarily rude. They may not think he's talking to them, or they may not have heard him.
It's uncommon for random people to say "hi" to you as you walk by here, so the most of the time I think they're just surprised to hear it.


And I'd love to switch to the metric system and start using celsius intead of farhenahieititiaeithianefaoefihaowe fa0et92t
The American stereotype of obesity must be true. It's hard to shop for clothes when you're skinnier than the average American.
That must be a regional thing, because here in Florida, fat people have a hard time finding their sizes. My friend is fat and he has to go to Burlington Coat Factory to get clothes that really fit him and he's really not THAT big.
I'm pretty skinny and wear medium shirts because I don't like the large shirts, they're slightly baggier than I like. Plus I like to show off my biceps. I don't think I've met someone who wears small. You have to be miniscule. And hoodies I have to get extra large. Any smaller than that and it's too tight. I wear like 33 waist and it seems like most sizes I see hover around that number. I rarely see any over 40.
 
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To build an ugly stereotype of Americans, go visit a popular US National Park. If you take one of the short trails to some scenic spot you will be surrounded by overweight, loud, rude, and ruinous people: Americans. Now take a ten mile hike that goes over some rougher terrain. The crowds will be gone. The few people you meet on the trail will be thin, quiet, polite, and will pack their trash out. They will also largely be foreigners. This happens every time I visit a National Park. I tend to favor camping in National Forests in part because of this phenomenon.

This might be selection bias; I don't know the makeup of people who visit a place like Gran Paradiso, for example. Perhaps the overweight, loud, rude, and ruinous people there are locals, and perhaps Americans who go there are more likely to take the long hikes and be thin, quiet, polite, and more likely to pack their trash. Perhaps.
 
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Monique said:
You think in grams, but you cannot convert that to kilograms? You must be joking.
There is an important difference.
grams is "personal use", kg is "with intent to supply"
 
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Char. Limit said:
Most Americans are NOT friendly. Ask them "hey, how's it going?" and you'll either get ignored or flipped off, unless you're bagging their groceries (had someone flip me off once where I worked... there were egg yolks and shells everywhere. I called it an "accident"... good times...)

I actually got this from foreigners visiting America. I have noticed a common observation is that strangers will talk to them, which is apparently uncommon in some places, such as Japan and England.
 
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Stereotypes are wrong. There are always exceptions.
 
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Kronos5253 said:
Stereotypes are wrong. There are always exceptions.

That's the common stereotype about stereotypes, but sometimes the stereotype is true.
 
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I think that when the OP said Americans were rude he was speaking of Americans from larger cities. I know some people who came from some central states and said people were really friendly and helpful.

If you compare say New York city to Toronto however I think you'll find that people in Toronto tend to be much more polite. In fact I think there was even a study done on it.

I don't think that being greedy is an American stereotype, I'm quite sure that exists everywhere.

I do think that the steroetype on Americans being fat is true however. A friend of mine works at Tommy Hilfigere and all the clothes are from America. So they use some 'American' system but it appears that it's the same as the one we use here. What they do is they make the sizes larger than they say. I.e. a size 34 is actually say a size 36 the people at the store say this is directly related to the average size of Americans. As well shirts from America tend to get larger around mostly the belly area when you go up in size...

A stereotype on Americans that I've come across a lot is their undying love for nationalism. From what I've seen Americans have tended to be the most proud about their country... even when their country is wrong they'll stand by it; weird.
 
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Sorry! said:
I think that when the OP said Americans were rude he was speaking of Americans from larger cities. I know some people who came from some central states and said people were really friendly and helpful.
I've lived in Minneapolis and San Diego and found most people to be high on the friendly scale. It could be a different story for, say, Chicago and N.Y., I don't know.
 
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If there is anything that I learned while traveling this country of ours, is that while we are all people having the same basic needs and desires, cultures can vary dramtically with geography. When we moved to Oregon, I expected people here to be much the same as people in California. WRONG! In fact the culture in Northern California is very different from that of Southern California. Nor are people in Alabama like people in Florida, or New Yorkers the same as the folks North of there. We probably have as many cultures in this country as we have towns and cities. New York city alone has many different cultures contained within, as does Los Angeles, San Francisco, or any large city.

Nationalism? Yes, that is a strong American value. Why? In part because we have sacrificed so much for others.
 
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I hope I didnt' offend by bringing up nationalism, I wasn't intending to make it look like a bad thing.

And yeah I would only assume that different areas of America have different culture. Based on the knowledge that America is quite a large country and has a variety of different people.
If we traveled across somewhere suchas Russia do you think that the difference in culture would be observed? I doubt it on the basis that Russia isn't very multicultural as far as I know.
 
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I was once struck by a young man from Israel who was sitting next to me on a long flight - Portland, Oregon, to Providence, Rhode Island. For the longest time he sat and looked at the landscape rushing by below. Finally he turned to me and said something like "It's too big. This country is way too big" Yes, it is a very big place. We are also a melting pot that is influenced by every culture in the world.

Welcome to America. We are you.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Nationalism? Yes, that is a strong American value.

Nationalism is the one thing that I admire of Americans the most. I was at a hockey game last month, and was amazed that everyone in that stadium stood up, turned to face the flag and sang at the top of their lungs. There were even members of the armed forces there in uniform (who also got lots of drinks sent to them by other random people). I just thought, Wow, these guys love their country. It was so moving it nearly brought a tear to my eye.

I think your nationalism spans from precisely the fact that Ivan mentions above: namely, that the country is a melting pot of different nationalities. I also think the fact that you're a young (comparatively) country helps,. For example, there is no such sense of nationalism remaining in the UK, mainly (I think) because the definition of "British" is changing, with immigrants coming from different walks of life, with different values. But the fact that the US was founded precisely by such people means your nationalism is bound to be stronger.

I would love the same sense of nationalism over here; to have people flying union flags outside their house and on top of public buildings. Of course, you can't really anymore, for want of being labelled as a BNP supporter.
 
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A rant complaining about American stereotypes, followed by a call for sharing those stereotypes? What is this?
 
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Newai said:
A rant complaining about American stereotypes, followed by a call for sharing those stereotypes? What is this?

It's a thread in general discussion-- they're not meant to make sense :smile:
 
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Sorry! said:
I hope I didnt' offend by bringing up nationalism, I wasn't intending to make it look like a bad thing.

I tend to see it as a double-edged sword. Nationalism can be a very powerful weapon for good, or for evil, depending on how it is exploited.

And yeah I would only assume that different areas of America have different culture. Based on the knowledge that America is quite a large country and has a variety of different people.
If we traveled across somewhere suchas Russia do you think that the difference in culture would be observed? I doubt it on the basis that Russia isn't very multicultural as far as I know.

As Cristo pointed out, we are a young nation. As a result, classically speaking, less the so-called native Americans, we are all immigrants, or nearly so. The oldest families, which represent a very small sample of the population, go back, what, maybe 500 years. In my case, I am a Finnish-Swedish-German-English-Polish-Native American. [There are actually a couple more small influences in there but I can't remember them at the moment... there is also a bit of Swiss, from the German side]
 
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Sorry! said:
I do think that the steroetype on Americans being fat is true however. A friend of mine works at Tommy Hilfigere and all the clothes are from America. So they use some 'American' system but it appears that it's the same as the one we use here. What they do is they make the sizes larger than they say. I.e. a size 34 is actually say a size 36 the people at the store say this is directly related to the average size of Americans.

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Lol, thanks Borek. I was looking for a chart or something with comparative sizes but I can't seem to find one :-p
 
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Borek said:
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Yes, but we are now exporting our secret weapon to your country: McDonald's

Obesity is a function of economics as well as culture. The sad fact is that poor people in particular find that junk food is cheaper than quality food. For example, you can get hamburgers at a local stand for 99 cents each. I'm not even sure if I can buy a head of lettuce for 99 cents.

Beyond that, with two working parents in most homes, many families tend to buy dinners, rather than prepare them. Most notable perhaps is that the food companies have made an exact science of exploiting our natural desire for fats and sugars.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
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Beyond that, with two working parents in most homes, many families tend to buy dinners, rather than prepare them. Most notable perhaps is that the food companies have made an exact science of exploiting our natural desire for fats and sugars.

Ivan I agree with what you've said.

The part that I've bolded however struck me as weird the first time I read it... I thought you had said that the made 'an exact science of exploting our natural desire for RATS'. I was like woahhh what?
 
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Obesity is a function of economics as well as culture. The sad fact is that poor people in particular find that junk food is cheaper than quality food. For example, you can get hamburgers at a local stand for 99 cents each. I'm not even sure if I can buy a head of lettuce for 99 cents.
I think it's more complicated than that. Sure, fresh produce is slightly more expensive than some ramen noodles, but I think it's more a combination of laziness (hence why they may be overweight to begin with) and lack of education. If you don't know what's healthy, you probably won't be eating healthy.
Or they simply just don't care.

Instead of getting a value meal at McDonalds, you could have several bowls of healthy cereal. Or you could make your own sandwich at home. There's too many healthy alternatives to blame economics.
 
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I grew up in Washington state and people here are very friendly, including in Seattle. For example, when passing another individual in the smaller cities along the sidewalk people often greet passing strangers. I have been to the east coast many times in my life and from my experience these people are often more rude (not that there aren't plenty of nice people). In states such as New York, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey rarely did others waste their time with pleases, thanks yous or friendly greetings. Obviously the United States is fairly large and has many people so no stereotype is applicable to even a significant portion of the population, but I personally tended to meet rude people more often along the East coast. The West coast seems more laid back at times although experiences can vary dramatically between individuals.
 
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Char. Limit said:
I also remember g=9.8 m/s^2, and I don't even know the American conversion for that figure.
g = 32.174 ft/s2
It shows up in engineering courses like thermodynamics.

If you compare say New York city to Toronto however I think you'll find that people in Toronto tend to be much more polite. In fact I think there was even a study done on it.
And I think they found that New Yorkers were more polite. (http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2006/07/polite.php ) I find that they're pretty helpful, being a native. If you're on the subway and ask how to get somewhere, you'll get a couple of answers and a debate on the best way there.
 
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I thought you had said that the made 'an exact science of exploting our natural desire for RATS'. I was like woahhh what?

Heh, no, but that statement would be appropriate in the political forum. :biggrin:
 

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