Al and Ti Alloy Formation with Flux

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In summary, the conversation was about creating a film of alloy Al and Ti using flux of each element and a substrate. The goal was to obtain an alloy on the substrate, which could potentially be TiAl or Ti3Al. Different types of Aluminides were discussed and it was mentioned that the type of substrate may not be as important as the process of deposition, which could be plasma spray, vapor deposition, or sputtering. The most effective way to determine the resulting alloy would be to deposit a lot of films under different conditions and analyze them.
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Al and Si?? flux??

to creat a film of alloy Al and Ti we use to flux of each element and a substrat.
if the flux of Al is double of that of Ti, then we obtain an alloy on the substrat AlTi or what?
 
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What is the substrate?

I believe the goal is something like TiAl (titanium aluminide), although Ti3Al is apparently of interest as well.

See - http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=1548
Aluminides are intermetallic compounds. A wide range of potentially useful alloys of these have been investigated with attention now concentrated on gamma (Ti-Al) and orthorhombic alloys. Alpha and super-alpha compositions (TiAl3 based) are no longer of significant interest.

http://www.ms.ornl.gov/researchgroups/process/craigblue/HTML2/HDI%20PROCESSHE%20HTML/HDI%20HTML/index.htm

This might be of interest - http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/1999/TM-1999-209071.pdf
 
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its not about the type of substrat. its about a pulverisation of two source Al and Ti do depose an alloy on the substrat. if the flux of Al pulverized equal = 2* flux of Ti, so which alloy we obtain??
 
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physicist888 said:
its not about the type of substrat. its about a pulverisation of two source Al and Ti do depose an alloy on the substrat. if the flux of Al pulverized equal = 2* flux of Ti, so which alloy we obtain??
Is that on an atomic basis? or mass, which would be different.

With Al = 2*Ti, I would imagine a mix of Ti-Al, and Ti-Al3, not knowing anything other information.

Is this a plasma spray, vapor deposition, or sputtered coating?
 
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its sputtering
 
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Again, you can't calculate it. If it is done usings sputtering (what kind?) you have a few process parameters to play around with; mainly temperature.
For practical film depostion it will also -to some extent- be specific to the equipment you are using.
The only way to do this properly is to deposit a lot of films under different conditions and analyze them (using XRD and some type of surface spectroscopy, e.g. Auger): this will give you a "map".
 

Related to Al and Ti Alloy Formation with Flux

1. What is the purpose of using flux in Al and Ti alloy formation?

The purpose of using flux in Al and Ti alloy formation is to facilitate the formation of a homogeneous mixture between the two metals. Flux acts as a cleaning agent, removing impurities and oxides from the surface of the metals, allowing for better bonding and alloy formation.

2. How does the addition of flux affect the properties of the alloy?

The addition of flux can improve the mechanical properties of the alloy, such as its strength and ductility. It can also help to reduce the melting point of the alloy, making it easier to work with.

3. What types of flux are commonly used in Al and Ti alloy formation?

Some common types of flux used in Al and Ti alloy formation include borax, sodium chloride, and potassium fluoride. Each type of flux has its own specific properties and is chosen based on the specific alloy being formed.

4. How is flux applied in the alloy formation process?

Flux is typically added to the molten metal mixture in the form of a powder or liquid. It is mixed in with the metal to evenly distribute it and then heated to allow for proper bonding and alloy formation.

5. Are there any safety precautions to consider when using flux in alloy formation?

Yes, it is important to handle flux with caution as it can be corrosive and may release toxic fumes when heated. Proper protective equipment, such as gloves and a respirator, should be worn when handling flux. It is also important to follow proper disposal procedures for used flux.

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