According to Buckingham Theorem the rank of A should be 2

In summary, the conversation discusses the construction of dimensionless quantities and the determination of the rank and order of a matrix. The difference between order and rank is also explained, with the conclusion that the rank of a matrix is the dimension of its range. Two linearly independent column vectors are identified as spanning the vector space of the matrix.
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evinda
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Hello! (Wave)

A physical system is described by a law of the form $f(E,P,A)=0$, where $E,P,A$ represent, respectively, energy, pressure and surface area. Find an equivalent physical law that relates suitable dimensionless quantities.

That' what I have tried so far:

1st step:


Choice of quantities


Mass: $M$

Time: $T$

Length: $L$

So:

$$[E]=M L^2 T^{-2}$$
$$[P]=ML^{-1}T^{-2}$$
$$[A]=L^2$$2nd step:

Construction of dimonsionless quantities
The matrix of dimensions:$A=\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 1 & 0\\
-2 & -2 & 0 \\
2 & -1 &2
\end{bmatrix}$I tried to find the rank, determining the smallest $n$ for which $A^n=I$.$\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 1 & 0\\
-2 & -2 & 0 \\
2 & -1 &2
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 1 & 0\\
-2 & -2 & 0 \\
2 & -1 &2
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
-1 & -1 & 0\\
2 & 2 & 0 \\
8 & 2 &4
\end{bmatrix}$$\begin{bmatrix}
-1 & -1 & 0\\
2 & 2 & 0 \\
8 & 2 &4
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 1 & 0\\
-2 & -2 & 0 \\
2 & -1 &2
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 1 & 0\\
-2 & -2 & 0 \\
12 & 0 &8
\end{bmatrix}$But I saw the solution and there should be only one dimensionless quantity, so according to Buckingham Theorem the rank of $A$ should be $2$.

Where is my mistake? (Thinking)
 
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Hey! (Smile)

evinda said:
I tried to find the rank, determining the smallest $n$ for which $A^n=I$.

Isn't that the order of $A$ instead of the rank of $A$? (Wondering)
The rank of $A$ is indeed $2$.
 
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I like Serena said:
Isn't that the order of $A$ instead of the rank of $A$? (Wondering)

What is the difference between order and rank? (Thinking)
I like Serena said:
The rank of $A$ is indeed $2$.

Because of the fact that there are two linearly dependent rows? (Thinking)
 
  • #4
evinda said:
What is the difference between order and rank? (Thinking)

In algebra the order of an element $a$ is the lowest power $n$ such that $a^n=id$.

The rank of a matrix is the dimension of its range. (Nerd)
Because of the fact that there are two linearly dependent rows? (Thinking)

Yes. (Nod)

More specifically, there are 2 linearly independent column vectors.
The range of the matrix is the span of those 2 vectors, meaning that range has dimension 2. (Emo)
 
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I like Serena said:
In algebra the order of an element $a$ is the lowest power $n$ such that $a^n=id$.

The rank of a matrix is the dimension of its range. (Nerd)

A ok... (Nod)

I like Serena said:
Yes. (Nod)

More specifically, there are 2 linearly independent column vectors.
The range of the matrix is the span of those 2 vectors, meaning that range has dimension 2. (Emo)

So could we say that the following two vectors
$\begin{pmatrix}
1\\
-2\\
-1
\end{pmatrix} , \begin{pmatrix}
0\\
0\\
2
\end{pmatrix}$ span the vector space of the matrix? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
So could we say that the following two vectors
$\begin{pmatrix}
1\\
-2\\
-1
\end{pmatrix} , \begin{pmatrix}
0\\
0\\
2
\end{pmatrix}$ span the vector space of the matrix? (Thinking)

Yes. (Nod)
 

Related to According to Buckingham Theorem the rank of A should be 2

1. What is Buckingham Theorem?

Buckingham Theorem, also known as the Pi Theorem, is a mathematical theorem that describes the relationship between physical quantities in a system. It states that if there are n variables and m fundamental dimensions, then the number of independent dimensionless parameters is equal to n-m.

2. How is Buckingham Theorem applicable in science?

Buckingham Theorem is applicable in various fields of science, including physics, engineering, and chemistry. It helps in reducing the number of variables in a system and simplifying complex equations, making it easier to analyze and understand the relationship between different physical quantities.

3. What does the rank of A represent in Buckingham Theorem?

The rank of A in Buckingham Theorem represents the number of independent dimensionless parameters in a system. It is also equal to the number of fundamental dimensions in the system. For example, if the rank of A is 2, then there are two independent dimensionless parameters in the system.

4. What happens if the rank of A is not equal to 2 in Buckingham Theorem?

If the rank of A is not equal to 2 in Buckingham Theorem, it means that there are more or less than two independent dimensionless parameters in the system. This could indicate an error in the analysis or that the system is more complex than originally thought.

5. How is Buckingham Theorem related to dimensional analysis?

Buckingham Theorem is closely related to dimensional analysis, as it helps in identifying the fundamental dimensions and reducing the number of variables in a system. Dimensional analysis uses the principles of Buckingham Theorem to convert physical quantities into dimensionless parameters, making it easier to compare and analyze different systems.

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