Accelerated charge inside sphere (again)

In summary, the conversation discusses the scenario of a stationary charge at the center of a stationary hollow spherical dielectric shell. An external force is applied to the charge, causing it to accelerate and produce a radiation electric field on the sphere. This results in a total force on the system, including the sphere, which leads to the question of a possible inconsistency. The possibility of a reaction force from the shell to the charge is proposed, which would result in an increase in the effective mass of the charge. The conversation also touches on the idea of including the fields as part of the system, and emphasizes the need to avoid labeling inconsistencies without careful consideration.
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Sorry to go on about this scenario again but I think something is going on here.

Imagine a stationary charge ##q##, with mass ##m##, at the center of a stationary hollow spherical dielectric shell with radius ##R##, mass ##M## and total charge ##-Q##.

I apply a force ##\mathbf{F}## to charge ##q## so that it accelerates:

$$\mathbf{F} = m \mathbf{a}$$

The accelerating charge ##q## produces a retarded (forwards in time) radiation electric field at the sphere. When integrated over the sphere this field leads to a total force ##\mathbf{f}## on the sphere given by:

$$\mathbf{f} = \frac{2}{3} \frac{qQ}{4\pi\epsilon_0c^2R}\mathbf{a}.$$

So I apply an external force ##\mathbf{F}## to the system (charge + sphere) but a total force ##\mathbf{F}+\mathbf{f}## operates on the system.

Isn't there an inconsistency here?

As the acceleration of charge ##q## is constant there is no radiation reaction force reacting back on it from its electromagnetic field - so that's not the answer.

Instead maybe there is a reaction force back from the charged shell, ##-\mathbf{f}##, to the charge ##q## so that the equation of motion for the charge is given by:

$$\mathbf{F} - \mathbf{f} = m\mathbf{a}\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ (1)$$

This reaction force might be mediated by an advanced electromagnetic interaction going backwards in time from the shell to the charge so that it acts at the moment the charge is accelerated.

Now the total force acting on the system is the same as the force supplied:

$$ \mathbf{F} - \mathbf{f} + \mathbf{f} = \mathbf{F}.$$

If one rearranges Equation (1) one gets:

$$\mathbf{F} = (m + \frac{2}{3} \frac{qQ}{4\pi\epsilon_0c^2R}) \mathbf{a}$$

Thus the effective mass of the charge ##q## has increased.
 
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johne1618 said:
So I apply an external force ##\mathbf{F}## to the system (charge + sphere) but a total force ##\mathbf{F}+\mathbf{f}## operates on the system.
Don't forget to include the fields as part of your system (i.e. charge + sphere + fields). Then you see clearly that f is an internal force and therefore causes no acceleration of the system.

If you insist on keeping the fields separate from the objects then there are two forces (transfers of momentum). First, momentum is transferred from the internal charge to the field, then the same amount of momentum is transferred from the field to the sphere.

Btw, this approach of yelling "inconsistency" is quite tiresome and must stop.
 
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Related to Accelerated charge inside sphere (again)

1. What is an accelerated charge inside a sphere?

An accelerated charge inside a sphere refers to the motion of a charged particle inside a spherical shell, where the particle is undergoing acceleration due to the presence of an external electric field or force.

2. How does the acceleration of a charge inside a sphere affect the electric field?

The acceleration of the charge inside the sphere causes a change in the electric field, resulting in a non-uniform distribution of electric potential inside the sphere. This is because the acceleration of the charge creates a non-zero charge density, which in turn creates an electric field inside the sphere.

3. What is the equation for the electric field inside a sphere with an accelerated charge?

The electric field inside a sphere with an accelerated charge can be calculated using the equation E = Qr / (4πε0r3), where Q is the charge of the particle, r is the distance from the center of the sphere, and ε0 is the permittivity of free space.

4. How does the electric field inside a sphere with an accelerated charge differ from that of a stationary charge?

The electric field inside a sphere with an accelerated charge is non-uniform and time-varying, while the electric field of a stationary charge is uniform and time-independent. This is due to the changing charge density caused by the acceleration of the charge inside the sphere.

5. What are some real-world applications of accelerated charges inside spheres?

Some examples of real-world applications of accelerated charges inside spheres include particle accelerators, where charged particles are accelerated to high energies for scientific research, and plasma confinement devices, where charged particles are confined and accelerated to create controlled nuclear fusion reactions.

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