A problem with a power rule proof

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof that the derivative of x^n is nx^(n-1) for positive integer n. It also addresses the extension of this proof to negative values of n and the use of logarithms. The proof by induction is mentioned as a possible alternative method.
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Homework Statement


y=xn
<=>
ln(y)=nln(x)
<=>d/dx ln(y) = d/dx n ln(x) <=> y'/y=n/x
<=> y'=y*n/x=x^n*x/x=nx^(n-1)

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The Attempt at a Solution


but doesn't this proof only hold for positive x? because ln a negative number is undefined or am I missing something?
 
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Yes, it does. What you could do is note that for even n, [itex](-x)^n= x^n[/itex] and for odd n, [itex](-x)^n= -x^n[/itex] to extend from positive to negative numbers. Of course, you would still have to do x= 0 separately but sinced [itex]0^n= 0[/itex], that is easy. That only proves it for the power a positive integer but x any real number.

But, personally, I would consider that proof "overkill". Lograrithms are much more advanced than polynomials so I would expect to know the derivative of [itex]x^n[/itex] long before the derivative of logarithm.

Prove [itex](x^n)'= n x^{n-1}[/itex] for positive integer n by induction on n:
If n= 1, [itex]x^n= x[/itex] and its derivative is [itex]1= 1(x^0)[/itex].

Now, suppose [itex](x^k)'= k x^{k-1}[/itex] for some k. Then [itex]x^{k+1}= (x^k)(x)[/itex] so using the product rule,
[tex](x^{k+1})'= (x^k)'(x)+ (x^k)(x')= (kx^{k-1})x+ (x^k)(1)= kx^k+ x^k= (k+1)x^k[/tex].

You could then use the quotient rule to extend [itex](x^n)'= n x^{n-1}[/itex] to negative n.

But [itex]x^r[/itex] where r is an arbitrary rational or irrational number is only defined for x positive anyway so you can use the "logarithm" proof for those.
 
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Related to A problem with a power rule proof

1. What is a power rule proof and why is it important in mathematics?

A power rule proof is a mathematical proof that is used to derive the general formula for calculating the derivative of a function raised to a power. This rule is important because it allows us to find the rate of change of a function at any point, which is essential in many fields of science and engineering.

2. What is the most common mistake made when proving the power rule?

The most common mistake is forgetting to apply the chain rule when differentiating the power function. Many students tend to overlook the fact that the exponent is also a function, which requires the use of the chain rule in the proof.

3. Can you give an example of a power rule proof?

One example is proving the power rule for the function f(x) = x^n, where n is any real number. The proof involves using the limit definition of the derivative and applying the binomial theorem to expand the function (x + h)^n. By simplifying the resulting expression and taking the limit as h approaches 0, we can arrive at the general formula for the derivative of a power function.

4. Are there any exceptions to the power rule?

Yes, there are a few exceptions to the power rule, such as when the exponent is a negative number or a fraction. In these cases, the power rule needs to be modified to account for the negative or fractional exponent. Additionally, the power rule does not apply to functions with multiple variables.

5. How can understanding the power rule help solve real-world problems?

The power rule is a fundamental concept in calculus and is used extensively in many fields, such as physics, engineering, and economics. Understanding the power rule allows us to find the rate of change of various quantities, which is essential in optimization problems, predicting trends, and making informed decisions based on data.

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