"2nd Order to Matrix: Find Fundamental Matrix

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the fundamental matrix for a given differential equation and converting the system to a matrix equation. The proper steps for solving the problem are also discussed.
  • #1
freezer
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Homework Statement



x'' + 3x' + 2x = 0

Find fundamental matrix

Homework Equations



x = x1
x' = x2 = x1'
x'' = x3 = x2' = x1''

The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure how to convert this to a matrix...

The eiganvalues should be 1 and 2
 
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  • #2
You want to write the derivatives in terms of non-derivatives. You have, so far,
\begin{align*}
x_1' &= x_2 \\
x_2' &= x''
\end{align*} Use the differential equation to express x'' in terms of x1 and x2. You can then express this system as a matrix equation
$$\begin{pmatrix} x_1' \\ x_2' \end{pmatrix} = A \begin{pmatrix} x_1 \\ x_2 \end{pmatrix}$$ with the appropriate A.
 
  • #3
x1' = 0x2 + 2x1
x2' = -3x2 -2x1

[tex]
\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 2\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

But the eiganvalues for this do not work.
 
  • #4
freezer said:
x1' = 0x2 + 2x1
x2' = -3x2 -2x1
Why did you write them this way?
I would write the system like this:
x1' = -2x1 + 0x2
x2' = -2x1 - 3x2

That will make a difference in how your matrix appears.
freezer said:
[tex]
\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 2\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

But the eiganvalues for this do not work.
 
  • #5
freezer said:
x1' = 0x2 + 2x1
x2' = -3x2 -2x1

[tex]
\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 2\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}
[/tex]

But the eigenvalues for this do not work.
If you multiply the system out with your matrix, you get
$$\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 2\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x_1 \\
x_2
\end{bmatrix}
=
\begin{bmatrix}
2x_2 \\
-3x_1-2 x_2
\end{bmatrix}
$$ which isn't what you want.
 
  • #6
Okay,

then

[tex]

\begin{bmatrix}
2 & 0\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

then

[tex]
(2-\lambda )(-2-\lambda )

[/tex]

I need a lamda = 2 and lamda = 1.

I will need

[tex]
\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0\\
-3 & 2
\end{bmatrix}
[/tex]

but I don't see how i get from the original DE to this matrix
 
  • #7
Recheck your equations.
 
  • #8
Is there a proper name for this method that i can lookup a lesson on how to do this? The professor went over this the last few minuets of class and just y = x1, x2 = x1', x3 = x2'... then just built the matrix mentally but I am not not seeing the process.
 
  • #9
freezer said:
x1' = 0x2 + 2x1

freezer said:
Is there a proper name for this method that i can lookup a lesson on how to do this? The professor went over this the last few minuets of class and just y = x1, x2 = x1', x3 = x2'... then just built the matrix mentally but I am not not seeing the process.
No, there's not a name for this because it's trivial to do. You're really overthinking this.

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/SystemsDE.aspx

Look at the equation you wrote above and look at the second equation your professor wrote. They're supposed to be the same.
 
  • #10
x'' + 3x' + 2x = 0

r^2 + 3r + 2
(r+2)(r+1)

r= -2 r = -1

x1' = x2
x2' = -3x2 -2x1

[tex]

\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1\\
-3 & -2
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

Then,

[tex]
\begin{bmatrix}
0 &1 \\
-3&-2
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
x_2\\
x_1
\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}
x_1 \\
-3x_2 -2x1
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

Okay I see now.

So if I had:

x''' + x'' + 3x' + 2x = 0

x1' = x2
x2' = x3
x3' = -x'' - 3x' - 2x
 
  • #11
So to complete the problem

[tex]

\begin{bmatrix}
2 & 1\\
-3 &0
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
a\\
b
\end{bmatrix}
=
\begin{bmatrix}
0\\
0

\end{bmatrix}
and
\begin{bmatrix}
1 &1 \\
-3& -1
\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}
a\\
b
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
0\\
0
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]


2a + b = 0
-3a=0

and

a + b = 0
-3a-b = 0

Unfortunately, these don't seem correct so I am guessing i still have an error.
 
  • #12
Okay, found the error.

Should be:

[tex]

\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1\\
-2 &-3
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

That works out to be

[tex]

C_1\begin{bmatrix}
-1\\
1
\end{bmatrix}
e^{-t}+C_2\begin{bmatrix}
1\\
-2
\end{bmatrix}e^{-2t}


[/tex]

Would you agree?
 
  • #13
freezer said:
Okay, found the error.

Should be:

[tex]

\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1\\
-2 &-3
\end{bmatrix}

[/tex]

That works out to be

[tex]

C_1\begin{bmatrix}
-1\\
1
\end{bmatrix}
e^{-t}+C_2\begin{bmatrix}
1\\
-2
\end{bmatrix}e^{-2t}[/tex]

Would you agree?

Now that looks reasonable. Looking back that wasn't so hard, was it?
 

Related to "2nd Order to Matrix: Find Fundamental Matrix

1. What is a 2nd order matrix?

A 2nd order matrix refers to a matrix with two rows and two columns. It is also known as a square matrix.

2. What is a fundamental matrix?

A fundamental matrix is a special type of matrix that is used to solve systems of linear differential equations. It contains information about the solutions to the equations.

3. How do you find the fundamental matrix for a 2nd order matrix?

To find the fundamental matrix for a 2nd order matrix, you first need to find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the matrix. Then, you can use these values to construct the fundamental matrix.

4. What is the importance of finding the fundamental matrix for a 2nd order matrix?

The fundamental matrix is important because it allows us to solve systems of linear differential equations. It also helps us understand the behavior and stability of the system.

5. Can the fundamental matrix change for a 2nd order matrix?

Yes, the fundamental matrix can change depending on the initial conditions of the system. Different initial conditions will result in different solutions and therefore, a different fundamental matrix.

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