What is L'hopital's rule: Definition and 115 Discussions

In mathematics, more specifically calculus, L'Hôpital's rule or L'Hospital's rule (French: [lopital],
English: , loh-pee-TAHL) provides a technique to evaluate limits of indeterminate forms. Application (or repeated application) of the rule often converts an indeterminate form to an expression that can be easily evaluated by substitution. The rule is named after the 17th-century French mathematician Guillaume de l'Hôpital. Although the rule is often attributed to L'Hôpital, the theorem was first introduced to him in 1694 by the Swiss mathematician Johann Bernoulli.
L'Hôpital's rule states that for functions f and g which are differentiable on an open interval I except possibly at a point c contained in I, if




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{\displaystyle \lim _{x\to c}{\frac {f(x)}{g(x)}}=\lim _{x\to c}{\frac {f'(x)}{g'(x)}}.}
The differentiation of the numerator and denominator often simplifies the quotient or converts it to a limit that can be evaluated directly.

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  1. M

    Limit involving L'Hopital's Rule

    Homework Statement \displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} \frac{e^x - (1 + x)}{x^n} where n is a positive integer The Attempt at a Solution The numerator approaches 0 as x approaches 0 from the right. The denominator approaches 0 with whichever positive integer, n. This gives an...
  2. K

    Clarification on L'Hopital's Rule?

    The rule states that: { lim }_{ x\rightarrow c }\quad \frac { f(x) }{ g(x) } \quad =\quad { lim }_{ x\rightarrow c }\quad \frac { f'(x) }{ g'(x) } Right? So if { lim }_{ x\rightarrow 2 }\frac { { x }^{ 2 }+1 }{ x-1 } \quad =\quad 5 Then shouldn't { lim }_{ x\rightarrow...
  3. M

    How does the proof of L'Hopital's rule show that the limit is equal to A?

    I've been reading over the l'Hopital's rule proof here: http://www.math.uga.edu/~pete/2400diffmisc.pdf For the first case of the proof, how does f(x)/g(x) <α imply the limit as x -> a is also A? I understand that α is an arbitrary number greater than A, which means that the limit is less...
  4. A

    MHB How can I use l'Hopital's rule to find the limit of [f(x)-cosa]/(x-a)?

    I just want to know how to fiind the derivative of the denominator. The question is as below: How can I find the limit for [f(x)-cosa]/(x-a) using l'Hopital's rule? Note: when x≠a, f(x)= [sinx-sina]/ (x-a) when x=a, f(x)= cosa So,here's what I know, Since f(x)= cosa, then f(a)=...
  5. A

    How do I use l'Hopital's rule to find the limit of [f(x)-cosa]/(x-a)?

    How can I find the limit for [f(x)-cosa]/(x-a) using l'Hopital's rule? Note: when x≠a, f(x)= [sinx-sina]/ (x-a) when x=a, f(x)= cosa So,here's what I know, Since f(x)= cosa, then f(a)= cosa and therefore, substituting this into [f(x)-cosa]/(x-a) gives [f(x)-f(a)]/(x-a)...
  6. T

    Finding a Limit Using L'Hopital's Rule

    Homework Statement lim x→∞ of ((x^3+2x-∏)^(1/3))-x Homework Equations L'Hopital's Rule: If it is an indeterminate form, take the derivative of the top and bottom until you do not get an indeterminate form anymore. The Attempt at a Solution lim x→∞ of ((x^3+2x-∏)^(1/3))-x...
  7. M

    Limit problem using l'hopital's rule

    Homework Statement \lim_{x\rightarrow2}\frac{x\sqrt{x-1}-2}{x-2} Homework Equations calculate the limit The Attempt at a Solution When I apply l'hopital's i have to do derivative of the top over derivative of the bottom right?
  8. E

    Using L'hopital's rule in exponential function

    Is that any way to find a finite value which is not equal to zero using L'hopital's rule in limit(z=-ia) exp[-A/(z+ia)]/(z+ia)^2 i kept getting 0/0 after differentiation Thank you
  9. G

    Limit problem / l'hopital's rule

    The limit n->infinity I have to compute is:\frac{n\cdot \log ^{5}(n)}{n^{2}}Should I use L'hopital's rule? If I do, I have a problem: First I simplify and get: \frac{ \log ^{5}(n)}{n} Taking the derivative of the top, and the bottom leads to: \frac{\frac{ 5\log ^{4}(n)}{n}}{1} At this...
  10. R

    Stuck on Applying L'Hopital's Rule to Indeterminant Form

    Homework Statement I know it needs L'Hopital but i can't get it to the indeterminant form Limit (x-(x+2)e^(1/x)) ((inf - inf )) x-->inf I reached until here and then i got stuck (1-((x+2)e^(1/x))/x)/(1/x) (1 -inf/inf)/0
  11. A

    How can I solve this limit without using l'Hôpital's rule?

    Homework Statement Hey guys. Can I please have some help with this limit over here http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/targil.jpg/ BTW I can't use l'Hôpital's rule. I'm trying to help someone how haven't learned how to Derivative yet. Thanks a lot. Homework...
  12. L

    Solving L'Hôpital's Rule Homework: Find the Limit

    Homework Statement I have L = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \Big( {\frac{\cos(1.92x)-1} {e^{2.33x} - 1 -2.33x}} \Big) I'm meant to use L'Hôpital's rule finding the limit, maybe twice. The Attempt at a Solution So, there's clearly something I have misunderstood, and hoping you might tell...
  13. L

    Can L'Hopital's Rule Be Used for Limits to Infinity?

    I understand the use of this rule for the limit as x goes to 0, but not for the limit as x goes to infinity. Can this rule be used to find limits to infinity? How? I have googled this but couldn't find a good explanation.
  14. QuarkCharmer

    Please check my proof (L'hôpital's rule)

    I should have made the title say "using L'h..." rather than what it is, I apologize. Homework Statement Prove the compounding interest formula from the following: A=A_{0}(a+\frac{r}{n})^{nt} Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution A=A_{0}(a+\frac{r}{n})^{nt}...
  15. D

    Understanding L'Hopital's Rule: Solving Limits with Indeterminate Forms

    I recently learned about L'Hopital's Rule in calculus and as I was doing some practice problems I came across two that confused me a lot. I was hoping that someone could help me with them here. The problem is lim(t→0)⁡〖(sint)(lnt)〗. I tried to make (sint)(lnt) a quotient by setting the...
  16. S

    L'hopital's rule/ possible indeterminate form question

    Homework Statement limit as n approaches infinity of (ln(1/n) / n) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Would it be valid to exponentiate (not sure if you can make that into a verb or not) the top and bottom, yielding (1/n) / e^n Then, if I take the limit I get...
  17. R

    Use L'Hopital's rule to calculate derivatives.

    Homework Statement Use L'Hopital's rule to calculate the following derivatives. Homework Equations 1. lim x-> pie/2 tan3x/tan5x 2. lim x->0 e^x - 1/sin x 3. lim x->1 e^x - e/In x The Attempt at a Solution i have attempted to solve the...
  18. D

    Infinite loop with l'hopital's rule?

    I'm not supposed to get help with the exact problem, but, in general, you what do if this happens?
  19. F

    Finding f'(0) with L'Hopital's Rule and a Piecewise Function

    Homework Statement Find f'(0) given a piecewise function defined as f(x) = {g(x)/x2, x≠0 {0, x=0 where g(x) is a function satisfying g(0)=g'(0)=g''(0) and g'''(0)=14 Homework Equations none. The Attempt at a Solution So far, I've reasoned that for f to be differentiable...
  20. B

    L'Hopital's Rule and Infinite Limits

    Say you have a limit in indeterminate form (0/0 or infinity/infinity) and you apply L'Hopital's rule to it and the result is an infinite limit. Is that a valid answer? Can L'Hopital's rule be applied in this way?
  21. N

    L'Hopital's Rule: Solving Homework Statement

    Homework Statement lim x->0 5x(cos 9x-1)/sin 5x-5x Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution answer is 243/25 The derivative of sin 5x-5x is always 0, dunno know how to do it...
  22. C

    Mastering L'Hopital's Rule for Calculating Limits | Solving Analysis Homework

    So I've been working on my analysis homework and I am stuck on the last question! Please help! the question is lim x approaches to 0 of (x/sin x)^1/x^2 the answer is e^1/6 but my l'Hopital's process keeps giving me 0/0... After taking the log of the limit, I have ====>...
  23. H

    Find this limit without L'Hopital's Rule

    Homework Statement L'Hopital's rule does not help with this limit. Find it some other way. lim (squarert(x)/squarert(sinx)) as x -> 0+ Homework Equations None? The Attempt at a Solution The only way I can think of solving this is by using L'Hopital's rule...but it obviously...
  24. C

    Simple question about using L'Hopital's Rule to solve limits

    I know L'Hoptal's rule can only be use when you have indeterminate forms and such, but I do not know how to make a limit a fraction sometimes. Take this limit for example: The limit at which X approaches infinity of (1+\frac{1}{x})X I make y = The limit at which X approaches infinity of...
  25. R

    Solve L'Hospital's Rule: sin(e^(x^2)-1)/e^(cosx)-e

    Homework Statement lim as x -> 0 sin(e^(x^2)-1)/e^(cosx)-e See Link Below. I saw this on the net and tried to solve it. I'm wondering if I'm correct by any means or did I mess up somewhere along the line. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution...
  26. K

    L'Hopital's Rule Homework: Evaluating Limit as x→0

    Homework Statement Evalutate the limit, as x approaches 0, log(coshx)/x2Homework Equations L'Hopital's ruleThe Attempt at a Solution I can get as far as (sinhx.cosh-1x)/2x by differentiating the top and bottom separately. I'm not sure how to do the next differentiation. Thanks for any help.
  27. C

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    Homework Statement lim (sin4x) divided by (x^2+8x) x approaches 0 Homework Equations L'Hopital's rule The Attempt at a Solution u = sin4x du = cos4x y = x^2+8x dy = 2x+c
  28. L

    Derivative using l'hopital's rule

    let f(x) exp(-1/x) for x>0, 0 for x<=0 i want to get f'(x) by using l'hopital's rule, but somehow i'm applying l'hopital's rule again and again and no clear value is coming out. i know f'(0) is 0, but i cannot prove it
  29. J

    Limits- using L'hopital's rule

    Homework Statement Lim tan (x^1/2)/ [x (x+1/2)^1/2 ] x-> 0 The Attempt at a Solution I have attempted to differentiate both the denominator and numerator seperately but this just seems to complicate the whole equations and I still get a limit of 0...
  30. T

    Do I even need to use L'Hopital's Rule for this

    Homework Statement Evaluate the limit analytically if necessary using L’Hopital’s rule: lim x->0 (1+x)1/x Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Well, I can get the thing equal to 1 if I just plug in zero, so do I need to use L'hopital's? This whole thing is very confusing...
  31. B

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    lim as x approaches 4 from the right of [3(x-4)]^(x-4) when you plug in 4 it becomes a 0^0. So I attempted to manipulate it so it would become a 0/0 form so I could l'hopital it. (sorry if I keep spelling it wrong) so lim(x-4)ln(3x-12)=lny then I l'hopitaled it: lim...
  32. N

    Limit Question (Using logarithm and L'Hopital's Rule)

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  33. B

    Proof of the value of e without using L'Hopital's rule?

    The proofs of y = \displaystyle\lim_{x \to\infty} (1 + 1/x)^{x} = e that I have seen basically involve taking the natural log of both sides and getting the equation in a form where L'Hopital's rule can be applied. The problem I have with this is that it requires taking the derivative of the...
  34. C

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  35. D

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    Homework Statement Evaluate \lim_{x\rightarrow0}\frac{e^{-\frac{1}{x}}}{x} The Attempt at a Solution I tried taking logarithms and applying l'Hôpital's rule, but that just led to an expression which diverged, and as far as I understand, the limit in l'Hôpital's rule MUST exist.
  36. B

    What is the Limit of xln(x) - x as x Approaches 0?

    Homework Statement What is the value of xln(x)-x when x=0?Homework Equations I'm assuming you do L'Hopital'sThe Attempt at a Solution I'm assuming you factor out the x, leaving: x(ln(x)-1) but that's still not in the form of \frac{\infty}{\infty} or \frac{0}{0} Would you do...
  37. M

    L'Hopital's rule for more than one variable?

    Is there an analog to l'Hopital's rule for functions of more than one variable? Or am I stuck using \epsilon \delta proofs and the squeeze theorem? Those also depend on me knowing the value of the limit beforehand which can be tricky in itself.
  38. M

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    I've a question concerning spivak's proof of L'Hopital's rule (in chapter 11). It goes like this, lim (x tends to a) of f = 0 lim (x tends to a) of g = 0 lim (x tends to a) of f'/g' exists, then, lim (x tends to a) f/g exists and is equal to lim (x tends to a) of f'/g' He...
  39. K

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    Homework Statement \lim_{x\to +\infty} \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+1}} Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution \lim_{x\to +\infty} \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+1}} \stackrel{l'H}{=} \lim_{x\to +\infty} \frac{\sqrt{x^2+1}}{x} \stackrel{l'H}{=} \lim_{x\to +\infty} \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}...
  40. K

    L'hopital's Rule for solving limit problem

    The question is: Evaluate the following limit: lim(as x tends to 1) of [(x-1)^3]/(logx) I tried using L'hopital's Rule, so i differentiated the top and bottom of the eqn and i got 3x(x-1)^2, then as x tends to 1 this would tend to 0. I don't think this is correct though, and was wondering...
  41. N

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    In my math class lectures at the university while studying multivariable functions the lecturer never mentioned L'hopital's rule for these multivariate functions..But in a tutorial class,a tutorial assistant approached this question..find lim (x,y)-->(0,0) [sin(x^2+y^2)]/(x^2+y^2)..by implicitly...
  42. G

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  43. P

    What is the limit as x approaches 0 from the positive side of (sin x)(ln x)?

    Homework Statement Find the limit as x -> 0+ of (sin x)(ln x) Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution I rewrote this as (sin x) / (1/ln x), then using L'Hopital it becomes: (cos x) / [(-ln x) / (ln x)2] = [(ln x)2 cos x] / (-ln x) So I get limit as x -> 0+ of...
  44. T

    L'Hopital's Rule: Advanced Analysis

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  45. P

    Epsilon-Delta Definition to prove the L'Hopital's Rule

    Okay I wish to try to construct an Epsilon-Delta Definition to prove the L'Hopital's Rule (0/0 form). Please correct me if I am wrong. http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53340.html I found the above site. Scrolling down one would the proof. I can follow how an x constraint is...
  46. M

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  47. A

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  48. T

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  49. L

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  50. F

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