Why are some random physical quantitites given a name?

In summary, the conversation discusses the naming of physical quantities and how it is determined. It is mentioned that while some quantities, like 'force', are given names due to their usefulness in calculations, others, like 'x-force', do not have a name even though they can also be used for calculations and predicting the future of a system. The basis for determining whether a physical quantity is important enough to be given a name is complex and may depend on factors such as frequency of use, relationship to other quantities, and whether it can be derived from other quantities.
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##\frac{dp}{dt}## is given the name 'force' but ##\frac{dp}{ds}## has no name. I know 'force' is useful for calculations and predicting the future of the system. If 'convenience in calculations' is the reason why some quantities are given names, then I don't see why ##\frac{dp}{ds}## doesn't have a name.
Let's call ##\frac{dp}{ds}## 'x-force' denoted by ##x##. Then if x-force is a function of time ##x(t)##, then,
$$\int_{t_1}^{t_2}x(t)dt=m(\ln(v_2)-\ln(v_1))$$
which looks similar to the work-energy equation:
$$\int_{s_1}^{s_2}F(s)ds=\frac{1}{2}m(v_2^2-v_1^2)$$
So, x-force can also be used for calculations but is not given a name. Then, what is the basis for calling a physical quantity important and giving it a name?
 
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Kumar8434 said:
Let's call dp/ds 'x-force'...
Yeah, call it what you want, and then go on to stuff that actually matters.
 
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A.T. said:
Yeah, call it what you want, and then go on to stuff that actually matters.
If you don't like the name, then maybe use ##force'##. But why doesn't it matter? I've shown that we can also do calculations with it and predict the future of a system.
 
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Kumar8434 said:
But why doesn't it matter?
If it matters to you, name it what you want and be happy.
 
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There's no simple answer to your question, but I'd bet some factors include how often these quantities are used, their relationship to other quantities, whether they can be derived from other quantities or not, along with other factors. Some quantities have names but are rarely used. For example, the 2nd derivative of acceleration is known as jounce, but you probably won't encounter that term very often.
 

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1. Why do scientists give names to physical quantities?

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2. How are names for physical quantities determined?

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