Systems Modeling - Sinusoidal Inputs

In summary, the lecturer's notes state that finding the complete response to a sinusoidal input is a lengthy process, but for the steady-state part, the imaginary part of "s" can be substituted with "jω" in the transfer function. This allows for the use of the magnitude and phase of the transfer function to determine the steady-state solution, yss(t). The poles of the transfer function influence the transient solution, while the poles of "1/s ± jω" make up the steady-state solution. Additionally, the inverse Laplace transform can be used to find the amplitude and phase of yss(t).
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Homework Statement


Finding the complete response (steady-state and transient) is a long and laborious task. My lecturer's notes read (since at our stage of the course, we're mostly interested in the steady-state part of the solution and not so much the transient) :

"The simple method for finding the steady-state part of the response to a sinusoidal input is simply to use the imaginary part of "s", substituting "jω" in place of "s" in the transfer function".

Then he goes on to show how to get the magnitude of the transfer function, G(s) / G(jω), and then on to get the phase.

Please explain what the magnitude of the transfer function has to do with the steady-state part of the solution, yss(t)?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I have no attempt to the solution as I just know that the transfer function, G(s), is y(s)/x(s).
I don't see how to get yss(t) from G(s).
 
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Consider a sinusoidal input [itex]x(t) = x_m \cos(\omega t) u(t)[/itex] that produces a steady state output [itex]y_{ss}(t)[/itex] and a network that has the transfer function [itex]H(s)[/itex]. Then the Laplace transform of the output is: [tex]Y(s) = H(s) L \left ( x_m \cos(\omega t) u(t) \right ) = H(s) L \left ( \left ( \frac{x_m}{2} e^{j \omega t} + \frac{x_m}{2} e^{-j \omega t}\right )u(t) \right )[/tex]
So
[tex]Y(s) = \frac{x_m}{2} H(s) \frac{1}{s - j \omega} + \frac{x_m}{2} H(s) \frac{1}{s + j \omega}.[/tex]

I was taught this in the context of electrical systems. My professor then went on to say that the poles of [itex]H(s)[/itex] influence the transient solution, while the poles of [itex]\frac{1}{s \pm j \omega}[/itex] make up the steady state solution. This feels kind of hand-wavy, but it makes sense when you consider that the transient solution is influenced by the particular system, but the steady state solution (long term) is obviously influenced by the driving force (for instance, consider pushing a spring with a sinusoidally varying force). In this case, if the driving force is a sinusoid, then the laplace transform of the driving force will look like the terms above. So we have [tex]Y(s) = \frac{k_1}{s - j \omega} + \frac{k_2}{s + j \omega} + (terms \ involving \ poles \ of \ H(s))[/tex] which implies that [itex]k_1 = Y(s)(s - j \omega)[/itex] evaluated at [itex]s = j \omega[/itex], and by extension, [itex]k_2 = k_1^*[/itex], or the complex conjugate of [itex]k_1[/itex]. So that means [tex]k_1 = \frac{x_m}{2} H(j \omega), k_2 = k_{1}^*.[/tex]

Finally, you have to remember this little shortcut when taking inverse Laplace transforms: if [itex]Y(s) = \frac{k_1}{s + a - i b} + \frac{k_2}{s + a + i b}[/itex], then [itex]y(t) = 2 |k_1| e^{-a t} \cos(b t + \theta)[/itex]. In this case, [itex]a = 0[/itex], and [itex]\theta[/itex] is the angle of the complex number [itex]k_1[/itex].

Putting those things together, when we take the inverse Laplace transform of the equation above, we get [tex]y(t) = x_m |H(j \omega)| \cos(\omega t + \theta) + (transient \ terms)[/tex]
Or, ignoring the transient terms, [tex]y_{ss}(t) = x_m |H(j \omega)| \cos(\omega t + \theta)[/tex] where [itex]\theta[/itex] is the angle of [itex]H(j \omega)[/itex]
 
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Thanks @axmls , still seems like a pretty long and laborious task. But basically, the magnitude of the transfer function enables us to get the amplitude of yss(t) and the angle of the transfer function is the phase difference between the input and the output?
 

Related to Systems Modeling - Sinusoidal Inputs

1. What is a sinusoidal input in systems modeling?

A sinusoidal input is a type of input signal that is characterized by its shape, which resembles a sine wave. It is a periodic signal that repeats itself over time and is commonly used to represent certain types of physical phenomena, such as vibrations, oscillations, and alternating currents.

2. How is a sinusoidal input used in systems modeling?

In systems modeling, a sinusoidal input is often used to study the behavior and response of a system to different types of inputs. By applying a sinusoidal input to a system, we can observe how the system responds to changes in frequency, amplitude, and phase of the input signal.

3. Can a sinusoidal input accurately represent real-world systems?

In some cases, a sinusoidal input can accurately represent real-world systems, such as in the case of mechanical systems that exhibit harmonic motion. However, in more complex systems, a sinusoidal input may not be able to fully capture all the dynamics and nonlinearities present in the system.

4. How do you model a sinusoidal input in a system?

To model a sinusoidal input in a system, we typically use mathematical equations that describe the relationship between the input and output of the system. This can involve using tools such as differential equations, transfer functions, and Fourier analysis to accurately represent the behavior of the system.

5. What are some advantages and disadvantages of using a sinusoidal input in systems modeling?

One advantage of using a sinusoidal input is that it allows for a simplified and systematic analysis of the system's response to different input conditions. However, a disadvantage is that it may not accurately represent all aspects of a real-world system and may require more complex modeling techniques to fully capture the system's behavior.

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