Struggling in College: How Do I Cope and Move Forward?

[noblegas]

Right now I am just burned out from the whole college experience. A year
ago, I was not ready to leave college and enjoyed the laid back atmosphere
; Boy has that mindset changed since a year has passed. I haven't gotten
any real guidance from any of my professors, no matter how hard I've tried
t to get the guidance I think I need; My professors didn't seemed to care
about the problems I was encountering with my academic work; My advisor
has been of absolutely no help to me because he looked at my transcript
and knew that I was doing bad in my classes, but did not give many any
academic advice nor did he inquire why I was performing badly in my
classes. Luckily for me, I gotten all my physics education at my college
library. As far as the social scene goes, I am not really been into
drinking or partying and so have not fit in with most of the people in
college since that seems like most of the kids want to do , at least at my
college. I did meet one guy on campus who I really cliqued with and we
had many similarities and consequently we enjoyed spending time together
and then one day he just stopped returning my calls and begin avoiding me;
He did profess in one of our emails that he avoided social situations a
lot and confessed that why he missed so many of our outings together; He
was the person I trusted the most at my college, and on an absolute level
of trustworthiness , he is not even trust worthy.

I went to see a psychologist to tell her about my personal problems and of
course like I predicted, she did not give me any sound advice on how to
cope with my problems , and so recommended me to a psychiatrist and me be
prescribed on some"drugs". She did even know what drugs I should take nor
did she used an MRI to analyzing my brain , yet she recommended me to take
some psychoactive drugs. Seeing that their were many suicides and school
shootings have resulted because of people being prescribed on
psychoactive drugs, I did not want to go down that road. Of course I've
been down on that road before with me being prescribe to ritalin as a
child. This year college has been a fast stomach churning roller coaster
ride that has increase my heartrate drastically. I am increasingly worried
about my future since I will probably have no job prospects after college.
I wanted to go to physics grad school, but that's no longer a possibility
with my GPA. But I am content with not going to grad school; I will
continue studying physics whether my physics education is informal or not.Want to take a break but parents want me to finish.
How do I deal?

 

[MissSilvy]

Whoah dude, slow down a bit. There's nothing you can accomplish by worrying about stuff that already happened and worrying about a bad GPA is just going to make you depressed. So the grad school door is likely off-limits for now, but not forever. What are your other options? What else would you like to do?

 

[MakeUpPlz]

Whoah dude, slow down a bit. There's nothing you can accomplish by worrying about stuff that already happened and worrying about a bad GPA is just going to make you depressed. So the grad school door is likely off-limits for now, but not forever. What are your other options? What else would you like to do?

I think you need to relearn a lot of things before making such statements mainly to soothe his mental state. Being able to complete a book doesn't mean you are good atthe subject you concentrated on. I finish a book, I will not be able to become a class top also. One if having a sense of responsibility to act as of high common sense, should know a way to react to better fit the situation.

 

[Loren Booda]

Is there a support/student group on campus that matches your interests and needs? You are one step ahead of many others and to be commended by not indulging in substance abuse. Many people find that a genuine counselor (the first is often not the best) and the option of prescription medicine work for them.

As for scholastics, I believe the goal of university is to eventually love knowledge (philo-sophy). It can be a time of great stress, which when handled well can turn crisis into opportunity.

 

[OnlineLiars]

Is there a support/student group on campus that matches your interests and needs? You are one step ahead of many others and to be commended by not indulging in substance abuse. Many people find that a genuine counselor (the first is often not the best) and the option of prescription medicine work for them.

As for scholastics, I believe the goal of university is to eventually love knowledge (philo-sophy). It can be a time of great stress, which when handled well can turn crisis into opportunity.

I agree with you,
greed and hunger are the case for abuses, don't EVER anyone deny this fact.

 

[MissSilvy]

What the-? Learn to communicate before you post junk responses to my quotes. What do you want me to say? "Your life is over because your GPA (which is the sole defining value of your life, ever) is low"? I'm assuming that was a troll.

 

[kldickson]

No physics grad school in their right mind will let you in if all your physics education is at the library.

 

[Loren Booda]

I'm assuming that was a troll.

As was the response to my post, by someone who is bitter from their own ignorance.

 

[MissSilvy]

We're just getting a tsunami of crazies lately. Must be the season for it.

 

[noblegas]

you know I just don't care about getting into physics grad school right now like i did a year ago , I can always go back to school later and repeat the classes I did not do so well in . I am not expecting physics grad school to accept me into any grad school especially with my GPA. , I simply won't discontinue my physics education just because I won't likely be accepting into grad school because you don't have to be in grad school enjoy and learn physics. School is not the only reason why I feel so low . When I graduate, I won't be able to leave home I will not have any money to buy a condo or rent an apartment; At maximum, I will graduate with $1000 in my pocket and that is not enough to pay rent. My college and colleges in general did not make it a requirement for students to take courses on learning about building existing wealth and making wise investments ; I will live college with a mountain of debt to pay back; College has literally sucked all of the joy out of me; I am bad at social networking and will have no jobs offers when I leave college with just a BA in physics.

I did go to a program for people with Asperger syndrome to talk about my personal issues ,but we just talk amongst ourselves and never really brought up any personal issues we were having except once;

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

My advisor has been of absolutely no help to me because he looked at my transcript and knew that I was doing bad in my classes, but did not give many any academic advice nor did he inquire why I was performing badly in my classes.

Why were you performing badly in your classes?

 

[KingNothing]

What college do you go to?

 

[seycyrus]

you know I just don't care about getting into physics grad school right now like i did a year ago ,...

Your original post was full of criticism regarding the advice and guidance you received from your counselor, psychologist and others.

On what do you base your criticism, might i ask? Hopefully on something besides, "I didn't like what they were telling me."

 

[rootX]

1) You don't seem to know what is your problem.
2) No one but you can change yourself/your life.

It is easier to criticize others and avoid dealing with the problems you are facing but that doesn't really help.

As a last resort, you can always try to sue people if that make you feel better:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276897

 

[Math Is Hard]

We're just getting a tsunami of crazies lately. Must be the season for it.

It's actually just one crazy who creates lots and lots of accounts here. I wish he/she would find another hobby.

 

[kldickson]

It's your job to figure out how to do stuff financially and how to network. Your college probably has resources.

(In addition, a BA in physics is generally not widely accepted from what I know. A BS is.)

 

[noblegas]

Your original post was full of criticism regarding the advice and guidance you received from your counselor, psychologist and others.

On what do you base your criticism, might i ask? Hopefully on something besides, "I didn't like what they were telling me."

I criticized her because she didn't give me any advice on what techniques I should apply to cope with my predicament; Literally , her diagnosis was to refer me to a psychiatrist so (s)he will prescribed me to some anti-depressants and I told her I did not want to try anti-depressants because their is a risk that I would end up conjuring up suicidal thoughts or end up going on a mass killing spree and I did not want to take that .And could not seem to come up with any real advice on what study strategies I should apply to improve my academic performance in my classes. He said he did not know any academic strategies; I asked my other physics prof for a summer internship with him to work in his nuclear physics lab and he said yes, I could work with him; However, he was a poor lab mentor; Even though I got paid a half-way decent salary for the summer, he barely was present in the lab half the time and when he was present he would be their for 10 minutes. I did not know how the scintillator I was working on fully operated and I had to do a lot of learning on my own by reading a manual on how the scintillator works which was very frustrating for me at times.

 

[noblegas]

It's your job to figure out how to do stuff financially and how to network. Your college probably has resources.

(In addition, a BA in physics is generally not widely accepted from what I know. A BS is.)

actually its a BS , not BA. I actually thinking about working in a patent office for a while just to established my financial solidarity from my parents, but I don't know my chances of being a qualified applicant for the patent office with my GPA

 

[MissSilvy]

Is it a recent trend to blame colleges for not nannying? The Bronx girl who sued because she couldn't find a job alleged that her school 'didn't do al they could have to help her find a job' and this guy is blaming his counselor for not asking why he was doing poorly. In what world do you have to be asked in order to seek help? If I was doing poorly, I know on no account would I sit on my hands and wait for someone to ask me about it.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

I repeat this for fear that it may have been overlooked.

Why were you performing badly in your classes?

 

[noblegas]

Is it a recent trend to blame colleges for not nannying? The Bronx girl who sued because she couldn't find a job alleged that her school 'didn't do al they could have to help her find a job' and this guy is blaming his counselor for not asking why he was doing poorly. In what world do you have to be asked in order to seek help? If I was doing poorly, I know on no account would I sit on my hands and wait for someone to ask me about it.

Colleges are supposed to guide you in the right direction ; Colleges are supposed to be vestiges for expanding your mind, so I am told; If colleges are going to make students take these humanities/social sciences electives, then I think they should forced students to take courses in financial planning; An academic counselor is supposed to be their to assist you in academic matters and what learning style helps you the best , not just help you sign up for classes or say "maybe this isn't your major"; I don't think that the lady should sue monroe college because she made a personal choice to attend monroe college , but I don't believe a bachelor degree(with the exception of math , engineering and teaching degrees) is just about as helpful as a high school diplomas, and many of us who are not or can't attend a professional school have been fooled by the media into believing that college is the automatic ticket to economic and personal success and I think that perception is about as accurate as the perception that many have of Ronald reagan reducing the size of the federal government and defeating communism ;

 

[noblegas]

I repeat this for fear that it may have been overlooked.

Why were you performing badly in your classes?

I don't know ; I studied a lot and did pretty decent on the homework set but when test time came I did badly on most of the tests; I didn't joined study groups for most of my career in college because for the most part, students in the study group at my school just seemed to copy off answers and so there was only one person doing the work; I wanted to learn on my own and did not want anyone influencing my approach to solving physics problems;

 

[seycyrus]

I criticized her because she didn't give me any advice on what techniques I should apply to cope with my predicament; Literally , her diagnosis was to refer me to a psychiatrist so (s)he will prescribed me to some anti-depressants

I doubt that it was as straightforward as you claim. You went to the psychologist to get "some techniques"?? Do you think that is what psychologists do?

I also doubt that she immediately told you to goto to a psychiatrist to get some drugs. Perhaps the specific psychiatrist she referred yo uto has experience dealing with issues of your nature?

work in his nuclear physics lab and he said yes, I could work with him; However, he was a poor lab mentor; Even though I got paid a half-way decent salary for the summer, he barely was present in the lab half the time and when he was present he would be their for 10 minutes.

Sounds like he was busy and wanted you to take some initiative in approaching him. You can't expect a mentor to be a tv show cook and take you by the hand every step of the way.

I did not know how the scintillator I was working on fully operated and I had to do a lot of learning on my own by reading a manual on how the scintillator works which was very frustrating for me at times.

When you had trouble, you should have gone to him with specific questions and ideas. through email, phone, or in person.

But...it does sound like you learned a little.

Here is my advice. Thank him for the opportunity he gave you. Apologize to him for not fully taking advantage of his expertise, and tell him that you would be interested in continuing your work in the future.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

My advisor has been of absolutely no help to me because he looked at my transcript and knew that I was doing bad in my classes, but did not give many any academic advice nor did he inquire why I was performing badly in my classes.

Why were you performing badly in your classes?

I don't know;

There's a joke that goes like that:

A: You didn't ask how I was doing.
B: So, how are you doing?
A: Don't ask.

I recommend that you look deeper into this question.

 

[noblegas]

I doubt that it was as straightforward as you claim. You went to the psychologist to get "some techniques"?? Do you think that is what psychologists do?

I also doubt that she immediately told you to goto to a psychiatrist to get some drugs. Perhaps the specific psychiatrist she referred yo uto has experience dealing with issues of your nature?

Well I talked to her for about two months and at the end of each session she would never give me any solutions on how I should deal with my problems unless I asked her how to deal with my problems ; Psychology is supposed to be the study of the mind and this psychologist did a poor-pissed(excused the language) job of probing into my mind; She should have given me coping strategies on how to deal with my problems and not just direct me to a psychiatrist ; I said before that I've been on this road before when I had problems as a child and my mom took me to see a psychologist and he thought that I should take ritalin but all that did was turn me into a sleep-deprive zombie; Why not just go directly to the psychiatrist if her analysis just consists of directing me to the psychiatrist and nothing more; My psychologist never to me that i should have my brain scanned and then decide from their if what anti-depressants fit best for my my brain, not everyone elses

Sounds like he was busy and wanted you to take some initiative in approaching him. You can't expect a mentor to be a tv show cook and take you by the hand every step of the way.

I did email him many times and and he never responded to my emails after 3 days have passed on average; On many occasions , it would take him a week for me to respond; To be fair , his wife did have a baby this summer and was probably spending more time with her; However, even before his wife had his baby, he would never be in his office during office hours when I took mechanics with him this fall way before his wife had a baby;

 

[noblegas]

I doubt that it was as straightforward as you claim. You went to the psychologist to get "some techniques"?? Do you think that is what psychologists do?

I also doubt that she immediately told you to goto to a psychiatrist to get some drugs. Perhaps the specific psychiatrist she referred yo uto has experience dealing with issues of your nature?



Sounds like he was busy and wanted you to take some initiative in approaching him. You can't expect a mentor to be a tv show cook and take you by the hand every step of the way.



When you had trouble, you should have gone to him with specific questions and ideas. through email, phone, or in person.

But...it does sound like you learned a little.

Here is my advice. Thank him for the opportunity he gave you. Apologize to him for not fully taking advantage of his expertise, and tell him that you would be interested in continuing your work in the future.

There's a joke that goes like that:

A: You didn't ask how I was doing.
B: So, how are you doing?
A: Don't ask.

I recommend that you look deeper into this question.

What do you mean? I told you how I studied and I still did not know why I performed so badly on my tests; Professors tell me that their is a strong positive correlation between homework grades and test grades; For the most part I performed decently on my homework assignment; I did not performed so well on my tests; I did not understand why this fact did not apply to me

 

[seycyrus]

Well I talked to her for about two months and at the end of each session she would never give me any solutions on how I should deal with my problems unless I asked her how to deal with my problems

I'm not an expert, but I think that pschologists are suppose to do what you say she did. Talk to you and try to get you to discuss your problems.

She's not a catholic priest giving confession "Go home and stand in front of the mirrorand say to yourself t0 times ..."

So after 2 months, she decided she wasn't having any success and referred you to a specialist. Sound pretty straightforward to me.

...
me into a sleep-deprive zombie; Why not just go directly to the psychiatrist if her analysis just consists of directing me to the psychiatrist and nothing more;

There's an inconsistency here. Two months of thereapy is *not* "nothing more".

...
My psychologist never to me that i should have my brain scanned and then decide from their if what anti-depressants fit best for my my brain, not everyone elses

I don't think psychologists can prescribe MRIs, that's one of the things psychiatrists do...

 

[seycyrus]

...

I did email him many times and and he never responded to my emails after 3 days have passed on average; On many occasions , it would take him a week for me to respond; To be fair , his wife did have a baby this summer and was probably spending more time with her; However, even before his wife had his baby, he would never be in his office during office hours when I took mechanics with him this fall way before his wife had a baby;

So what's preventing you from following my advice regarding your mentor?

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

What do you mean? I told you how I studied and I still did not know why I performed so badly on my tests; Professors tell me that their is a strong positive correlation between homework grades and test grades; For the most part I performed decently on my homework assignment; I did not performed so well on my tests; I did not understand why this fact did not apply to me

Perhaps you read the book carelessly and think you understand when in fact you don't. Perhaps you have more time to do homework and less time to answer test questions. Perhaps you don't feel pressure when doing homework and do when taking tests. Perhaps you just got lucky on the homework, or the homework questions were easier to do. You know the saying "Amateurs practice until they can get it right, professionals practice until they can't get it wrong." I only thought that you had examined these possibilities because of your complaint that the advisor hadn't asked. It seems that if she had asked you would have had no answer, so why complain about it?

On reflection, it seems that I am doing your work for you and you probably do not want anyone influencing your approach to solving problems.

 

[noblegas]

There's an inconsistency here. Two months of thereapy is *not* "nothing more".

I could still go to therapy and feel like I wasted my time their; She did not give me much feedback on why I've acted the way I have at the end of each sessions unless I asked her;She just nodded her head a lot in a "yes man" sort of way; The best therapy I've been getting and it has not cost me anything is listening to the stories of people who are in similar predicaments like myself and observing what coping strategies they've used to deal with their problems ; I wanted to continue to practiced this form of therapy for myself , but my psychologist advised me not to; I probably will see the psychiatrist but I just don't think it will help and I feel like I will be wasting my time and money on drugs that could make me suicidal;

I created this thread not just to confess my personal problems to a bunch of stranger; Moreover, to asked people who also have personal problems how do they cope with their personal problems and do you go on any creative endeavors you partake on to deal with your undesirable predicaments;

 

[seycyrus]

therapy for myself , but my psychologist advised me not to; I probably will see the psychiatrist but I just don't think it will help and I feel like I will be wasting my time and money on drugs that could make me suicidal

You don't HAVE to take the drugs, and not ALL drugs make you suicidal.

You indicated that you would like an MRI, a psychiatrist can provide you with that opportunity. A psychologist cannot, unless she refers you to someone else (which is what she did btw)

I created this thread not just to confess my personal problems to a bunch of stranger; Moreover, to asked people who also have personal problems how do they cope with their personal problems and do you go on any creative endeavors you partake on to deal with your undesirable predicaments;

Sounds like you are asking for more magical "strategies" that you will scrutinize and dismiss out of hand.

The real "strategy" is to stop looking for a wonder plan. it'll take some hard work.

Go talk to your old mentor. You must have had something of merit for him to have had an interest in taking you on. Do what I advised earlier.

 

[MissSilvy]

I second seycyrus. No offense dude, but I have seen people who have it ten times worse than you take responsibility and make their own way and turn into something amazing. You are sitting around looking for more tips and tricks instead of getting out and making changes.

YES, the changes are hard; they are emotionally draining, they're not always fun, they're not always easy but you do them because you want to change. You're looking for some magical way and coping strategies that'll solve all your problems for you without you having to conquer yourself. You won't find it.

The last two pages of this thread have been excuses about how your professors don't care, your advisor doesn't care, your psychiatrist doesn't care. I don't give a whoop-de-doo who cares or not, you have to MAKE them care. They don't get paid to care and it's not a prefect reality but that's how it is. I hated my freshman advisor because all she gave me was stilted advice and refused to let me try to do things she considered difficult. I didn't whine and pout that she didn't care; I went and I got a new, unofficial advisor by emailing a wonderful professor I had known and I have someone who believes in me. Be polite, be interested, and don't act like it's their job to help you. It's not, but plenty of professors are willing to help a hardworking student who is willing to help themselves.

Friends are a powerful influence on you these years and it's important to find them. I have three great, motivated and hardworking people with similar interests and similar goals and we spend a lot of time together. It sounds like you need to find a group you fit in with. At the same time, no one likes a wanker who just takes and takes without giving anything back. Plenty of people in your situation lose any friends they might have potentially made by making the friendship all about them and their problems. A true friend will help you with your problems but it goes both ways. You're on a campus with a zillion kids your age, there must be one or two in the thousands that you can click with.

I know this is a preachy-type post but I'm not trying to rip you down for fun. It's just sad to see a lot of people in this type of a hole when they see no real way to get out of it. What most people don't realize is that the people who do make giant changes to their lives, who are amazing at what they do and who accomplish a lot of stuff aren't superhuman. Everyone has bad days where they think "Oh god, how can I go on?" and they feel like crap. The difference between what they're doing and what you're doing is that they know they can change it and they go out on their bad days and work to make it better. Do you think Olympic swimmers always want to go to three-hour long practices everyday? They didn't have bad days where their friends ticked them off, or they got a bad grade on some test, or when they felt like they were worthless? It happens to everyone, but the key is to go out and try anyways, not to give up.

 

[noblegas]

I second seycyrus. No offense dude, but I have seen people who have it ten times worse than you take responsibility and make their own way and turn into something amazing. You are sitting around looking for more tips and tricks instead of getting out and making changes.

YES, the changes are hard; they are emotionally draining, they're not always fun, they're not always easy but you do them because you want to change. You're looking for some magical way and coping strategies that'll solve all your problems for you without you having to conquer yourself. You won't find it.

The last two pages of this thread have been excuses about how your professors don't care, your advisor doesn't care, your psychiatrist doesn't care. I don't give a whoop-de-doo who cares or not, you have to MAKE them care. They don't get paid to care and it's not a prefect reality but that's how it is. I hated my freshman advisor because all she gave me was stilted advice and refused to let me try to do things she considered difficult. I didn't whine and pout that she didn't care; I went and I got a new, unofficial advisor by emailing a wonderful professor I had known and I have someone who believes in me. Be polite, be interested, and don't act like it's their job to help you. It's not, but plenty of professors are willing to help a hardworking student who is willing to help themselves.

Friends are a powerful influence on you these years and it's important to find them. I have three great, motivated and hardworking people with similar interests and similar goals and we spend a lot of time together. It sounds like you need to find a group you fit in with. At the same time, no one likes a wanker who just takes and takes without giving anything back. Plenty of people in your situation lose any friends they might have potentially made by making the friendship all about them and their problems. A true friend will help you with your problems but it goes both ways. You're on a campus with a zillion kids your age, there must be one or two in the thousands that you can click with.

I know this is a preachy-type post but I'm not trying to rip you down for fun. It's just sad to see a lot of people in this type of a hole when they see no real way to get out of it. What most people don't realize is that the people who do make giant changes to their lives, who are amazing at what they do and who accomplish a lot of stuff aren't superhuman. Everyone has bad days where they think "Oh god, how can I go on?" and they feel like crap. The difference between what they're doing and what you're doing is that they know they can change it and they go out on their bad days and work to make it better. Do you think Olympic swimmers always want to go to three-hour long practices everyday? They didn't have bad days where their friends ticked them off, or they got a bad grade on some test, or when they felt like they were worthless? It happens to everyone, but the key is to go out and try anyways, not to give up.

perhaps you are right; But I am about to graduate from college(hopefully) within a year and I don't think I can begin on a clean slate again with my low GPA and so my future will start off very bleak with me not having any money in my pockets , unlike most of the college graduates; I am not a wanker; IF I was not trying my darnest to improve my situation, I wouldn't be trying to seek help from a psychologist; nor if I just stopped caring about academic life, I would not have asked my physics professor if I could work as a lab assistant this summer; Sometimes its hard to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" If you lack the proper support system(i.e. friends, mentors, etc) ; Somedays I feel much older than I really am and feel like I am about to approach the age of 50(I am 21); everyone is graduating and going off to professional schools and I am on a road in a dark forest where everything is pitch black and I've just gone deaf ;

 

[seycyrus]

perhaps you are right; .. and I am on a road in a dark forest where everything is pitch black and I've just gone deaf ;

Have you made an appointment with that psychiatrist yet?

Have you spoken to your mentor yet?

 

[cronxeh]

noblegas, I was going to comment on your lack of command of English language, but what the hell, we've all been there. I think you need friends, I don't personally have any, but someone like you might benefit from the social support group. I have a career that doesn't involve any college education whatsoever, I work 3 days a week, and go to classes full-time the other 4 days. I've been in college for 7 years now. I might graduate next year, I haven't decided yet. College is not about partying, girls, getting laid, or going to war with your professors. It is not about whining, worrying, stressing yourself out, or jumping from the library building of NYU. College is about disciplined approach to a problem. A systematic, methodical, logical analysis of the world around you and ways to make it better, either for yourself or for others.

You need to get a hobby, turn it into a job, and start reading books more often. Forget about women for now, drink modest amount of wine and beer, read Giacomo Casanova's autobiography in 12 volumes called "My Life", and immerse yourself in a lifetime commitment to learning. Now you say you have Asperger's syndrome. Bummer. Perhaps you can overcome this burden and graduate with honors from your University. Then write a book about it and make millions. Or just go silently into the night. Either way, its social Darwinism, evolve or be eaten. It is a harsh world out there, and you have to get stronger. Mentally, Physically, Emotionally, and most importantly Analytically. Start reading philosophy texts by Nietzsche and Epicurus. The meaning of life is PLEASURE. Deriving this pleasure from reading, music, women, wine, boating, sports, drugs, knowledge, work, friends, etc IS your purpose in life. If you are not PLEASED you must change. You need to adjust all of these parameters until you are fully balanced. Seek pleasure in the aforementioned list, find a subject you like, a woman to love, wine to drink, boat to fish from, sport to excel at, legal drugs (try Salvia divinorum, you'll trip balls legally), and so on.

Your life is a collection of your experiences, make them exciting and memorable. Now turn off your computer and go out there. Carpe Diem!

By the way, this is the edit (I thought I sounded a bit dry): listen to Mendelssohn's Concerto for Violin and Orchestra in E minor its on youtube somewhere. It starts off sad (in E minor, obviously) and evolves into a strong homophonic sound towards the end.