Should I Redo My First Year of University for a Stronger Foundation in Math and Physics?

In summary, a second year student is considering re-doing their first year curriculum in order to gain a stronger background in theoretical physics and mathematics. They fear that their junior level background will not be sufficient, but they are encouraged by the fact that other students have been successful with this approach.
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Hi. I'm a second year student attending Universty of Toronto. In my first year, I took the very basic math courses and sciences. This includes PHY110Y and MAT135. The main reason for this is because I lacked any physics or algebra in highscool (I did have calculus) and was not permitted to take the mid or advanced stream levels.

I got mostly mid 80s in these courses and really found an interest in them. I plan to continue my studies in the chemistry and physics arena but fear that my "junior" level background will not give me an adequate preperation. While the university accepts these junior levels as prereqs for my courses, I fear that I will not fully understand the material as well as I would with a stronger background.

What I have proposed to myself is to re-do my first year curiculum, in which I would take all the advanced level courses such as MAT157 (Intro analysis) and PHY140Y. The downside to this is it puts me back a year and costs more money. The plus side is I would have a very theoretically strong background in theoretical maths and physics which would no doubt provide additional insight to higher level courses.

What do you guys think? It should be stated clearly however that my main goal is chemistry. I am only taking physics and math to really understand how chemistry works. This is why I will eventually take quantum and advanced mechanics.

The text's I used are Stewart's 5th ed Calculus and Cutnell's physics. After looking at lecture notes from the advanced courses I found I could not understand a lot of it with my junior knowledge. I am just wondering, will information from the first year be repeated in 2nd year anyways? Like in Waves Physics, will they redo the SHM at the level I missed out on and will multivariable calculus restate most of the theorems in general form? Or would I need to learn this going in.
 
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I would go ahead and take the upper division courses you want to take instead of re-doing your first year. A brief reason for this is, I knew of quite a few students at my university who ended up being very strong physics majors even through they didn't have the mid/advanced level first year. One had a very difficult time in one of this freshmen physics course, however, during his senior year he took a graduate level semi-conductor/nano-techinques course in which he preformed better than any of the graduate students.

Intro level is just that, Intro level. Yes you will have a slightly harder time in your upper-division courses, but that happens to nearly everyone. If you have a decent grasp on calculus, diff. eqs, and (maybe) linear algebra, along with a familiarity with the core physics...you will do fine.

Good luck!
 
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What I've found in my EE classes is that the important stuff keeps popping up over and over again and the more you use those techniques, the more details you pick up. I'm a senior now, and I probably know enough about the concepts taught in calculus I and II to ace it without hardly cracking a book even though I didn't do all that great in them the first time through.
 
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sounds like a good way to burn out

move on, move on
 

Related to Should I Redo My First Year of University for a Stronger Foundation in Math and Physics?

What is the purpose of re-doing the first year of a scientific program?

The purpose of re-doing the first year of a scientific program is to ensure a strong foundation in the fundamental concepts and skills necessary for success in the program. It allows students to review and strengthen their understanding of key concepts and improve their academic performance for future courses.

Is re-doing the first year of a scientific program common?

No, re-doing the first year of a scientific program is not a common practice. It is typically only recommended for students who have struggled in their first year and need additional support to catch up.

Will re-doing the first year affect my graduation timeline?

Re-doing the first year may affect your graduation timeline, as it may delay your progress in the program. However, it can also ultimately benefit your academic success and future career opportunities. It is important to discuss this option with your academic advisor to determine the best course of action.

What are the potential benefits of re-doing the first year?

The potential benefits of re-doing the first year include a stronger understanding of fundamental concepts, improved academic performance, and a solid foundation for future courses. It can also improve your confidence and preparation for advanced courses and research opportunities.

Are there any alternatives to re-doing the first year?

Yes, there may be alternative options to re-doing the first year, such as taking additional courses or seeking academic support and tutoring. It is important to discuss these options with your academic advisor to determine the best plan for your individual situation.

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