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Hi, I'm going into my first year of university and I'd really like to know about how "ready" one should be before taking a first year rigourous calculus course (Analysis I). My current plan is to take random credits of courses that interest me and wait until next year before I begin taking the courses required for entry into the math specialist program.
To me, it's a foolproof plan - I could only become stronger in math if I had more time to self-study; but on the other hand, I'm very anxious to begin learning math from great professors.
At any time you could just scroll down and skip my life story:
Anyway, my main problem is that I never REALLY took any math courses in my high school years (I stopped at grade 11, and I didn't do so well). I was just a bad student and I didn't care about anything. But I took a year off after I graduated from high school, and during that year off (not the whole year though..) I became extremely interested in mathematics - I learned all that I could from books..et c. I also took some crash course in preparatory mathematics for the university level for about 2 months (we went through all of precalculus and went into calculus).
...
Anyhow..
... I was wondering what the "average" level of knowledge and ability a "usual" student would have before going into a first year undergraduate analysis course.
This is probably most of what I know:
All of pre-calculus (trig, inverse trig, logarithms..et c.)
Limits (epsilon-delta definition, calculating limits, "simpler" epsilon-delta proofs, proofs of the limit laws)
derivatives (proofs for differentiation rules, proof of derivatives like ln(x) = 1/x, calculating derivatives)
some random things like the division algorithm [ prove that if n is a perfect square, n divided by 4 will always a remainder of 0 or 1, prove that all q and r are unique to a set of a and b (where a = bq + r), prove that r < b)
Induction, strong induction and the well-ordering principle.
And right now I'm reading up more on algebra (groups and fields, vectors). I'm also reading from the Calculus book by Michael Spivak (haven't really gone too far yet, doing the exercises at the end of chapter one)
One of the things I'm most concerned about is that my basic "computational skills" are not as strong (very much so), I'm the kind of person who could overlook factoring a stupid polynomial because he thought that the +4 was a -4... I'm also worried about the "strength" of the problems I'm studying: maybe the solutions I've been coming up with are not as "clever" or maybe I haven't been trained enough in "word problems".. And finally my biggest concern is that my geometry skills are probably lacking immensely.
and I have another question:
Is it really necessary to take physics courses as a math student? The "course calendar" of my university even recommends that I at least take a first year physics course (and one of the more advanced levels). I'm glad that I've been lucky enough to catch up on a lot of things, but I think that there's no hope for me in physics. While I haven't really been introduced to physics, I feel like it could be something I'd be interested in. But I feel like I have no time and no direction - I wouldn't even know where to start..
I know it's a bit to read, but thanks for your time :)
To me, it's a foolproof plan - I could only become stronger in math if I had more time to self-study; but on the other hand, I'm very anxious to begin learning math from great professors.
At any time you could just scroll down and skip my life story:
Anyway, my main problem is that I never REALLY took any math courses in my high school years (I stopped at grade 11, and I didn't do so well). I was just a bad student and I didn't care about anything. But I took a year off after I graduated from high school, and during that year off (not the whole year though..) I became extremely interested in mathematics - I learned all that I could from books..et c. I also took some crash course in preparatory mathematics for the university level for about 2 months (we went through all of precalculus and went into calculus).
...
Anyhow..
... I was wondering what the "average" level of knowledge and ability a "usual" student would have before going into a first year undergraduate analysis course.
This is probably most of what I know:
All of pre-calculus (trig, inverse trig, logarithms..et c.)
Limits (epsilon-delta definition, calculating limits, "simpler" epsilon-delta proofs, proofs of the limit laws)
derivatives (proofs for differentiation rules, proof of derivatives like ln(x) = 1/x, calculating derivatives)
some random things like the division algorithm [ prove that if n is a perfect square, n divided by 4 will always a remainder of 0 or 1, prove that all q and r are unique to a set of a and b (where a = bq + r), prove that r < b)
Induction, strong induction and the well-ordering principle.
And right now I'm reading up more on algebra (groups and fields, vectors). I'm also reading from the Calculus book by Michael Spivak (haven't really gone too far yet, doing the exercises at the end of chapter one)
One of the things I'm most concerned about is that my basic "computational skills" are not as strong (very much so), I'm the kind of person who could overlook factoring a stupid polynomial because he thought that the +4 was a -4... I'm also worried about the "strength" of the problems I'm studying: maybe the solutions I've been coming up with are not as "clever" or maybe I haven't been trained enough in "word problems".. And finally my biggest concern is that my geometry skills are probably lacking immensely.
and I have another question:
Is it really necessary to take physics courses as a math student? The "course calendar" of my university even recommends that I at least take a first year physics course (and one of the more advanced levels). I'm glad that I've been lucky enough to catch up on a lot of things, but I think that there's no hope for me in physics. While I haven't really been introduced to physics, I feel like it could be something I'd be interested in. But I feel like I have no time and no direction - I wouldn't even know where to start..
I know it's a bit to read, but thanks for your time :)