Once more with feeling another ideal gas question.

In summary, the conversation is discussing the increase in pressure inside a sealed can when placed in water of a higher temperature. The initial pressure and temperature are given and the equation P1/T1 = P2/T2 is used to calculate the increase in pressure. However, there is some confusion and mistakes made in the calculations, leading to a discussion of the correct approach to solving the problem.
  • #1
QueenFisher
[SOLVED] once more with feeling! another ideal gas question.

the pressure inside a sealed can which is kept in a deep freeze at -23C is 0.8x10^5 N/m^2. If the can is placed in water of temperature 27C:

calculate the increase in pressure inside the can.

initially, pressure/temperature = 0.8x10^5 / 273-23
=320
afterwards, pressure 2 divided by (273+27) must equal 320 also. this gives pressure 2 as 96000Pa
increase in pressure = 0.8x10^5 - 96000
= -16000
but if the temperature increases, surely the pressure has to increase? since they are directly proportional??
or have i taken them away the wrong way round?
 
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  • #2
The pressure HAS increased. 96,000 is larger than 80,000 after all.
 
  • #3
I think you need much more information to solve this. We have to find the finla temperature of the air in the can to solve the following.
 
  • #4
Galileo said:
The pressure HAS increased. 96,000 is larger than 80,000 after all.

so i guess i was taking them away the wrong way around. man I'm stupid.
 
  • #5
Or I think it has to be assumed that the temperature of the system becomes 300K when put in water nadwas 250K initially. Now use the same relation as you said - P1/T1 = P2/T2.
You have mistook the sign I would say. You made a silly mistake. Your problem solving is okay.
 
  • #6
vaishakh said:
Or I think it has to be assumed that the temperature of the system becomes 300K when put in water nadwas 250K initially. Now use the same relation as you said - P1/T1 = P2/T2.
You have mistook the sign I would say. You made a silly mistake. Your problem solving is okay.

yeah that was the equation i was used, just in some weird convoluted form
 

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