Exploring Nature's Constants: Manipulating Variables in the Lab

Some are just "more fundamental" than others, but in the end, they are all just conversion factors.For example, the speed of light is a conversion factor between distance and time units. If we changed it, we would just redefine our units of distance and time, but it wouldn't have any impact on the marble or any other physical system. So changing dimensionful constants is essentially the same as changing the conversion factor between miles and kilometers.
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If supposed you could locally change any constant of nature in a test area in the lab say the the size of aquarium and you put a marble inside.. could you make the marble bigger and smaller, heavier or lighter by adjusting any of the parameters? or even make the marble explode? What would happen in such case? Please mention all combinations with different constant of nature parameters values and share what you think would happen. Thanks.
 
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Note that you can only change dimensionless constants in a meaningful way.

Changing the electron mass (its coupling to the Higgs) would change the size of the marble (lighter -> larger).
Changing the fine-structure constant would change its size as well, but potentially make it radioactive (and if you make it too radioactive, it explodes).
Making the strong interaction significantly weaker would make it radioactive or would make it explode directly. Making it stronger shouldn't have a strong effect.

"Heavier" and "lighter" needs an interaction with the outside world where it is unclear how that is supposed to look like (do we use the constants for the marble or the constants for Earth?).

Most constants wouldn't have a relevant impact as they only apply to particles not present in the marble.
star apple said:
Please mention all combinations with different constant of nature parameters values and share what you think would happen.
There are millions of combinations.
 
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mfb said:
Note that you can only change dimensionless constants in a meaningful way.

why didn't you mention "dimensionfull constants".. can't you change dimensionfull constants in a meaningful way? why? any example?

Changing the electron mass (its coupling to the Higgs) would change the size of the marble (lighter -> larger).
Changing the fine-structure constant would change its size as well, but potentially make it radioactive (and if you make it too radioactive, it explodes).
Making the strong interaction significantly weaker would make it radioactive or would make it explode directly. Making it stronger shouldn't have a strong effect.

"Heavier" and "lighter" needs an interaction with the outside world where it is unclear how that is supposed to look like (do we use the constants for the marble or the constants for Earth?).

Most constants wouldn't have a relevant impact as they only apply to particles not present in the marble.There are millions of combinations.
 
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Moving this thread to science fiction because of its potential.

The notion of changing the key parameters can be done in a myriad of ways far too many to discuss meaningfully here. However, anyone such combination could be the basis for some science fiction story yet to be written.

Let’s try to keep the discussion simple and focused from peer reviewed papers only even while it may be somewhat too speculative for PF.
 
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Moving this thread to science fiction because of its potential.

The notion of changing the key parameters can be done in a myriad of ways far too many to discuss meaningfully here. However, anyone such combination could be the basis for some science fiction story yet to be written.

Let’s try to keep the discussion simple and focused from peer reviewed papers only even while it may be somewhat too speculative for PF.

All right.
Dear creative team. What constant of nature alteration can you make that can make the marble float inside the aquarium size localized sector where you can change any constant of natures and see the effect?
 
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star apple said:
why didn't you mention "dimensionfull constants".. can't you change dimensionfull constants in a meaningful way? why? any example?
Changing other constants is like changing the mile to kilometer conversion. A mile is now 2 km long. So what? That doesn't change the marble at all. It just changes the unit system without impact on the physical system.
 
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Changing other constants is like changing the mile to kilometer conversion. A mile is now 2 km long. So what? That doesn't change the marble at all. It just changes the unit system without impact on the physical system.

Can you please give an example of what you meant that "Changing other constants is like changing the mile to kilometer conversion."? What were you referring to? Is it about dimensionful constants that I was asking? If so.. why would changing dimensionful constants be like changing mile to kilometer? Please give an example to illustrate the idea. Thank you.
 
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All dimensionful constants are just like the "fundamental constant" X = 1.60934 miles/km. Just conversions between units where we could have chosen the same units but did not for practical reasons or our lack of knowledge when they were introduced.
 
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Related to Exploring Nature's Constants: Manipulating Variables in the Lab

1. What is the purpose of manipulating variables in a lab?

The purpose of manipulating variables in a lab is to understand how different factors affect a natural phenomenon or process. By changing one variable at a time, scientists can isolate and study the effects of that specific variable on the overall outcome.

2. What are the different types of variables that can be manipulated in a lab?

The three main types of variables that can be manipulated in a lab are independent variables, dependent variables, and control variables. Independent variables are the factors that are intentionally changed by the scientist, while dependent variables are the outcomes or results that are measured. Control variables are kept constant throughout the experiment to ensure that any changes in the dependent variable are caused by the independent variable being tested.

3. How do scientists determine which variables to manipulate in an experiment?

Scientists determine which variables to manipulate in an experiment by conducting thorough research and forming a hypothesis. They identify the key factors that may affect the phenomenon being studied and then design their experiment to test how these variables impact the outcome. They also consider ethical and practical limitations when deciding which variables to manipulate.

4. Can manipulating variables in a lab accurately represent real-world situations?

In most cases, manipulating variables in a lab can accurately represent real-world situations. However, it is important for scientists to consider the limitations of their experiments and take into account any potential differences between the lab environment and the natural environment. They may also need to conduct further studies in different settings to validate their findings.

5. What are some potential challenges when manipulating variables in a lab?

Some potential challenges when manipulating variables in a lab include controlling all variables except the one being tested, ensuring the accuracy and precision of measurements, and minimizing external influences. Scientists also need to be aware of any unintended consequences or unforeseen effects that may arise from manipulating variables in a lab.

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