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Hey guys,
To give myself some background before posting this, I've read through the "Personal Theories" and "Crackpot Forum" Suggestion threads, and re-read the relevant Global Guidelines. So, if this idea just doesn't meet the forum vision, I understand. Having said that...
I think there's a case to be made for a new board, dedicated to people who come here looking for science advice as they put together a world for a science fiction (or dare I say fantasy?) novel.
1. The category exists.
In my humble, ~50-post career here at PF, I've seen threads like this a few times. Lots of people without the first clue about relativity want to write scifi novels, but what's interesting is that a few of them come here, hoping to get help in making their world more realistic - or, at the very least, to get an assessment of how realistic their world is. A noble goal, in my opinion.
2. The category requires its own area.
Well and good. They ask for realism; we can direct them towards The Truth Of Reality (something at which this website is pretty good!), and they can accept it or leave it. That's one approach - but it's frequently not that simple. Some necessary plot devices may require a compromise to The Truth Of Reality, and the novelist is looking for how to allow this while avoiding as much inconsistency as possible in their world (archtypical example: FTL travel). So such discussions, if they are to help the novelist, sometimes need to stray into the realm that would be called "crackpottery" if it were attempting to address reality. This is where the actual suggestion comes in: such discussions, if they were to take place on these forums, should be abstracted away from the parts that preach the pure, unfettered Truth Of Reality (ie. all the science boards).
3. This website is a good place to host it.
People come to this website because of its good reputation. Ok, ok, [citation needed]. Maybe it's the first thing that came up on google. But it's good that they end up here, because lots of knowledgeable people hang out here. Here, they can in fact get a thought-out assessment of how realistic their world is, and perhaps what inconsistencies they may have to address. If we have a board dedicated to helping them, we can be flexible to their needs instead of giving them hardline requirements that veto the plot of their story, while still giving advice based on a good knowledge of modern physics.Here's an example of what I mean...although, before reading it, please understand that I am in no way trying to denounce or decry the way the thread was handled. My suggestion would simply offer an alternative way.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=550101
-Jack Desh is proposing an idea important for his story. It is backed up by intuition and no data, and thus counts as a personal theory. He is requesting expert opinion on how realistic his idea is.
-Option 1 [current model of PF]: Call out the fact that he is asking for assessment on a personal theory, assert the invalidity of such a topic, and lock thread - as executed by Vanadium 50.
-Option 2 [my suggestied model]: Call out the fact that he is looking for advice in constructing a fictional, potentially non-realistic universe, as opposed to seeking information about reality. Assert that it is off-topic, and move it to the SF Novel Help (or whatever) board.
Yea? Nay? Thoughts?
Thank you for your consideration. :)
To give myself some background before posting this, I've read through the "Personal Theories" and "Crackpot Forum" Suggestion threads, and re-read the relevant Global Guidelines. So, if this idea just doesn't meet the forum vision, I understand. Having said that...
I think there's a case to be made for a new board, dedicated to people who come here looking for science advice as they put together a world for a science fiction (or dare I say fantasy?) novel.
1. The category exists.
In my humble, ~50-post career here at PF, I've seen threads like this a few times. Lots of people without the first clue about relativity want to write scifi novels, but what's interesting is that a few of them come here, hoping to get help in making their world more realistic - or, at the very least, to get an assessment of how realistic their world is. A noble goal, in my opinion.
2. The category requires its own area.
Well and good. They ask for realism; we can direct them towards The Truth Of Reality (something at which this website is pretty good!), and they can accept it or leave it. That's one approach - but it's frequently not that simple. Some necessary plot devices may require a compromise to The Truth Of Reality, and the novelist is looking for how to allow this while avoiding as much inconsistency as possible in their world (archtypical example: FTL travel). So such discussions, if they are to help the novelist, sometimes need to stray into the realm that would be called "crackpottery" if it were attempting to address reality. This is where the actual suggestion comes in: such discussions, if they were to take place on these forums, should be abstracted away from the parts that preach the pure, unfettered Truth Of Reality (ie. all the science boards).
3. This website is a good place to host it.
People come to this website because of its good reputation. Ok, ok, [citation needed]. Maybe it's the first thing that came up on google. But it's good that they end up here, because lots of knowledgeable people hang out here. Here, they can in fact get a thought-out assessment of how realistic their world is, and perhaps what inconsistencies they may have to address. If we have a board dedicated to helping them, we can be flexible to their needs instead of giving them hardline requirements that veto the plot of their story, while still giving advice based on a good knowledge of modern physics.Here's an example of what I mean...although, before reading it, please understand that I am in no way trying to denounce or decry the way the thread was handled. My suggestion would simply offer an alternative way.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=550101
-Jack Desh is proposing an idea important for his story. It is backed up by intuition and no data, and thus counts as a personal theory. He is requesting expert opinion on how realistic his idea is.
-Option 1 [current model of PF]: Call out the fact that he is asking for assessment on a personal theory, assert the invalidity of such a topic, and lock thread - as executed by Vanadium 50.
-Option 2 [my suggestied model]: Call out the fact that he is looking for advice in constructing a fictional, potentially non-realistic universe, as opposed to seeking information about reality. Assert that it is off-topic, and move it to the SF Novel Help (or whatever) board.
Yea? Nay? Thoughts?
Thank you for your consideration. :)
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