Zero point energy and IR spectroscopy

In summary, the conversation discusses the task of finding the most accurate method/basis set combo for frequency calculations in Gaussian by comparing the results to literature values. The concept of zero point energy is brought up, and the individual struggles to understand its relevance to IR spectra. They also mention using visual thinking to understand abstract concepts in chemistry. The conversation ends with them discussing specific calculations and attempting to understand the concept of zero point energy through examples.
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mycotheology
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I made some frequency calculations in Gaussian (using various method/basis set combos) and I have to find which method/basis set combo is the most accurate by comparing the results to literature values. I got the calculated wavenumbers along with their intensities but my professor tells me I need to be corrected for zero point energy. I struggled in his spectroscopy class last year so I don't know what zero point energy is, let alone how to correct these values for it. If I just google zero point energy, I'm a visual thinker so quantum chemistry isn't my strongest area. Can anyone explain how this zero point energy relates to IR spectra? I'm googling zero-point energy so I'll learn as much about it as I can but I suspect it will be a long time before I find an explanation as to how it relates to IR absorbances.
 
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I have to find which method/basis set combo is the most accurate by comparing the results to literature values.
Which is to say, you want to find out which model gives results closest to observation?

Sounds like you are expected to do a literature search...?
We probably should not help you there since diving into the lit is how you learn how to deal with it. If we just throw up some papers that would defeat the purpose.

I don't know what zero point energy is ... I'm a visual thinker
Uh oh - you will need to find a way to cope with abstract math I'm afraid, or go into a different field. Let's see what I can do:

http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
In IR spectroscopy, though, it is common to model the systems being observed as harmonic oscillators. In a quantum harmonic oscillator, the minimum energy is not zero: this is the zero-point energy for the system.

Here's your visual:
p74b_72.gif

from http://131.104.156.23/Lectures/CHEM_207/vibrational_spectroscopy
(scroll down to "zero point energy".)

Notice there is a non-zero minimum energy at [itex]E=h\nu_0/2[/itex]?
 
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mycotheology said:
I made some frequency calculations in Gaussian (using various method/basis set combos) and I have to find which method/basis set combo is the most accurate by comparing the results to literature values. I got the calculated wavenumbers along with their intensities but my professor tells me I need to be corrected for zero point energy. I struggled in his spectroscopy class last year so I don't know what zero point energy is, let alone how to correct these values for it. If I just google zero point energy, I'm a visual thinker so quantum chemistry isn't my strongest area. Can anyone explain how this zero point energy relates to IR spectra? I'm googling zero-point energy so I'll learn as much about it as I can but I suspect it will be a long time before I find an explanation as to how it relates to IR absorbances.

The energy levels of a harmonic oscillator are determined by:
E_n=hf(n+1/2)
where E_n is the energy of the level, n is the excitation number of the level (n=0,1,2,3,...), h is Plancks constant, and f is the fundamental frequency of that energy level.
The above formula is used a lot in IR spectroscopy, both absorption spectroscopy and Raman spectroscopy.
The term 1/2 is the contribution of zero point energy.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Which is to say, you want to find out which model gives results closest to observation?
Yeah. Cr(CO)6 is the compound so its a relatively simple compound to work with since all the bond angles are the same. I found that the most effective method/basis set combo for optimising the structure is B3LYP/6-311G. Now I need to find out what the best method/basis set combo is for frequency and TD calculations.

Simon Bridge said:
Sounds like you are expected to do a literature search...?
We probably should not help you there since diving into the lit is how you learn how to deal with it. If we just throw up some papers that would defeat the purpose.
Yeah, I've found literature values to compare the predicted results to. For IR spectrum of gaseous Cr(CO)6, the CO peak lands right on 2000 cm-1.

Simon Bridge said:
Uh oh - you will need to find a way to cope with abstract math I'm afraid, or go into a different field. Let's see what I can do:
Visual thinking gives me an edge in many areas in chemistry but other areas, such as this one, I have to really work like mad to gain a good understanding. I make abstract visual representations of the concepts but it takes a serious amount of time and effort sometimes. Thanks for the help, I'll read all this now and see if I can get a grasp of it all.

Thanks for the diagram but I'm not entirely sure what it represents. I'm guessing v=0 is the ground state vibrational frequency. So let's use Cr(CO)6 as an example. The C-O bond produces an intense peak at around 2000 cm-1. If I'm not mistaken, 2000 cm-1 corresponds to the energy differece between v=0 and v=1 for the C-O bond.

I'm still trying to get my head around what exactly zero point energy is. In the article you linked, it says zero-point is the energy of a system when T=0. So let's say my system is a can of butane and the temperature is absolute zero. Zero-point energy is the energy that's left over? As for harmonic oscillators, I'll use a spring with a metal ball at the end of it as an example of a macroscopic harmonic (lets pretend its harmonic i.e. forget about gravity and air resistance etc.) oscillator. I can see that at the very moment the metal ball changes direction, its kinetic is zero but its potential energy is at its highest. How does this concept apply to a quantum harmonic oscillator?
 
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BTW, here's the output from one of my frequency calculations:

74.4629, 98.1250, 116.5055, 328.6017, 337.3187, 413.5514, 527.1941, 558.8680, 666.7709, 2157.3618, 2160.9906,
0.0000, 0.0000, 5.6900, 0.0000, 0.0000, 83.7658, 0.0000, 0.0000, 304.6480, 0.0000, 2480.6823

The first number is the wavenumber, the number below it is the intensity. As you can see, the most intense peak is the one at 2160.9906 cm-1, which has an intensity of 2480.6823. Thats clearly the C-O peak. I have about 30 output files which all contain a calculation for this carbonyl peak. I need to determine which calculation is the most accurate. Those calculations above were done by HCTH/6-311G. My professor tells me I need to correct these calculations for zero point energy before I can compare them to literature values so that's what I'm trying to figure out now.
 
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Why not just save yourself some effort, and ask your professor how to do the ZPE correction?
 
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OhYoungLions said:
Why not just save yourself some effort, and ask your professor how to do the ZPE correction?

I emailed him earlier and he said:
I think you are seeing problems which do not exist. If you calculate a frequency of a normal mode you will get some number such as 1926 cm-1. However if the experimental value is 1988 cm-1 simply calculate the correction factor to apply i.e. 1926* x = 1988 where x is the correction factor. This correction factor can then be applied to other systems at the same model chemistry in order to predict the wavenumbers of these systems.
so by the sounds of it, he's suggesting I just find a correlation factor to apply to my calculations. I emailed him again, asking where to find this correlation factor but I didn't really think it through. I can probably use a correlation online that was derived for a different class of molecule and use that. In other words, if an accurate correlation factor was determined for tetrahedral carbon compounds, it probably applies to octahedral chromium complexes. Have I got the right idea or am I mistaken?
 
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Right - so I know what he means.

It turns out for various reasons, ab-initio calculations for vibrational frequencies (like you do in Gaussian) turn out to be slightly incorrect when compared with experiment. It's standard practice to simply multiply the calculated values by some empirical factor to correct the problem. I've been told that this factor (which depends on the particular method you use for your calculation) tends to be fairly universal across a large set of molecules.

The factors can be looked up in the literature (experimental chemists use them all the time to analyze their IR spectra).

Do you really understand what your project is?
 
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Ah right. The gaussian site:
http://www.gaussian.com/g_tech/g_ur/k_freq.htm
gives the following correction factor:
Zero-point correction= .023261 (Hartree/Particle)
so I suppose that's all I need to use.

You're last question: No, I don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing for this research project. I was new to Gaussian when I started so the terminology he was using had me baffled. I have a vague idea though. My professor is researching substituted octahedral chromium carbonyl complexes and the project he assigned me is to determine if any of the newer density functional methods are more effective at making calculations on octahedral carbonyl complexes than Hartree-Fock methods. I happen to be a programmer so I've been doing all kinds of side projects for him by programming scripts to extract data from the output files etc. but I think I'm pretty much finished this research project.
 
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While quantum chemistry isn't my strongest field, I'm glad I got this particular project because I finally got to implement my programming skills in chemistry. You'd be amazed at the power programming gives you when it comes to dealing with data outputted by Gaussian.
 
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I could be wrong, but I think the correction factor above is to the total energy.
I don't think the Gaussian output file has the correction factor you want in it.
I take it you'll either need to look it up in the literature, or find out what the real IR spectra look like for the compounds in question to compare with your results.
 
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I have a literature value:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01593a008
the carbonyl peaks wavelength lands right on 5 microns which corresponds to 2000 cm-1. Any idea where I'd find a zero-point correction factor to apply to my calculations? Heres my lecturers original reply:
I don't think that the frequency data is a good one to estimate the accuracy of a particular method. These figures need to be corrected for zero point energy. This is because the theoretical methods assume the nuclei are at the bottom of the potential well and we know that the quantum mechanics of vibrational energy indicate that there are vibrational quantum levels the lowest of which (v = 0) is not at the bottom of the well. So each of these calculated values need to be corrected by a factor which brings the calculated value to the experimental one. From memory Cr(CO)6 absorbs at 1988 cm-1 in alkane solvent.

I have no idea how to get this correction factor. I asked him about it but he didn't answer the question.
 
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The correction factor is empirical - you have to use experimental data to work it out.
Think of it as finding a systematic error in a measurement - only here it is in the calculation. The same correction factor should apply to every calculation - which tells you if the theory is good.
 
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Ah, I think I get it now. The experimental CO absorption for Cr(CO)6 is at 1988 cm-1 in alkane solvent. If I calculate its zero-point energy, then I can subtract it from 1988 cm-1 and get a Born-Oppenheimer approximation value. From those two values I can derive the correction factor. Have I got the right idea?
 
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Darwin123 said:
The energy levels of a harmonic oscillator are determined by:
E_n=hf(n+1/2)
where E_n is the energy of the level, n is the excitation number of the level (n=0,1,2,3,...), h is Plancks constant, and f is the fundamental frequency of that energy level.
The above formula is used a lot in IR spectroscopy, both absorption spectroscopy and Raman spectroscopy.
The term 1/2 is the contribution of zero point energy.

So let's say the experimental wavenumber is 1988 cm-1, which corresponds to a wavelength of 5.03 microns and thus a frequency of 59601 GHz and an energy of 0.247 eV. I know that this is the energy difference between n=0 and n=1. I see from the equation [itex]E_n=hf(n + \frac{1}{2})[/itex] that the energy difference between n=0 and n=1 is 3/2 - 1/2 hf, in other words its just hf. So that means the energy of n=0 must be 0.247 eV / 2 = 0.1245 eV. That can't be right. That would shift the wavenumber to around 1000 cm-1.
 
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Related to Zero point energy and IR spectroscopy

1. What is zero point energy?

Zero point energy is the lowest possible energy that a quantum mechanical physical system may possess. It is the energy that particles possess even at a temperature of absolute zero.

2. How is zero point energy related to IR spectroscopy?

In IR spectroscopy, molecules absorb and emit infrared radiation at specific frequencies, which are related to the vibrational energy of the molecules. Zero point energy plays a role in determining the vibrational energy levels of the molecules, and thus affects the frequencies of light that are absorbed and emitted.

3. Is zero point energy a real phenomenon?

Yes, zero point energy is a real phenomenon that has been observed in various systems, such as quantum harmonic oscillators and the vacuum of space. It is a consequence of the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics.

4. How is zero point energy calculated or measured?

The calculation of zero point energy involves solving the Schrödinger equation for the system in question, which can be a complex mathematical process. It can also be indirectly measured through various experiments, such as measuring the energy levels of a quantum system at different temperatures.

5. Can zero point energy be harnessed for practical use?

There is ongoing research on how to harness zero point energy for practical applications, but currently there is no known way to do so efficiently. Some proposed methods include using it for power generation or as a potential source of propulsion for space travel, but more research is needed to make it a viable option.

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