Would the Earth Have A Delay Reaction if the Sun disappeared

In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of what would happen if the sun suddenly disappeared. According to the person, due to the speed of light and the fact that gravity cannot travel faster, the Earth would continue on its regular path for 8 minutes before being affected. This has been a frequent question and there is no straightforward answer, but it is more easily explained in terms of general relativity. The confirmation of gravity traveling at the speed of light is based on the formulas in general relativity and the validation of phenomena such as Mercury's precession. There have been attempts to measure the speed of gravity experimentally, but results have been inconclusive.
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So, I heard the other day from someone online who claimed that if the sun would to suddenly disappear that the Earth would still travel in its regular path for 8 minutes before breaking off.

The person claimed that because it takes light 8 minutes to reach Earth, and that since nothing can travel faster than the speed of light that it would take the information that "the sun was gone" 8 minutes to reach the Earth thus the Earth wouldn't react until 8 minutes later.

Is this accurate? And if so, can someone explain to me how?

Thank you very much.
 
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That is indeed correct.
What part do you have trouble understanding? As you said yourself, nothing can travel faster than light, and that of course includes gravity. So, the change in gravitational force would take 8 minutes to reach us. Up to that time we'd still be receiving "old information", so to speak.
 
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This is a frequent question on PF.
Unfortunately, there is not a straightforward answer to it. For a start, you cannot envisage taking away the Sun, 'just like that!'. If you 'nuked the Sun, its centre of mass would not change so the gravitational field at Earth would not change. Of course, after 8 minutes, there would be an almighty flash, arriving on Earth!
If you 'nudged' the Sun with a large, high speed object, it would be the position of the centre of mass of the Sun plus Object that would affect the Field at Earth. This wouldn't be a 'sudden' event, at all.
Neverthless, any effect at Earth would still be delayed.

However, if you want a thought experiment that would be more feasible. If we had a binary pair of stars at the centre of our orbit, the varying gravitational potential as the stars moved from end on to broadside on, in their mutual orbits - and back again would be 8 minutes delayed and would give the Earth a wobble in its orbit that lagged about 8 minutes behind the relative positions of the two stars.
 
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This is something that is more easily explained in terms of General Relativity. In Newtonian mechanics, the gravitational force change is transmitted instantly from one location in space to another. However, this is not the reality of the situation. In reality, it is the curvature of space-time, induced by the presence of a massive body (in this case, the sun), that is responsible for the gravitational effect. If the massive body somehow vanished, the curvature of space-time would have to readjust, but the readjustment effect would not take place instantaneously. It would travel outward at the speed of light from the place where the massive body had been.

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What's the experimental confirmation of gravity traveling at the speed of light actually? We've never seen gravity waves after all.
Or is it more implicit confirmation since the GR formulas all involve c somewhere or another, and something like Mercury's precession validated gravity's speed alongside with it?
 
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What's the experiential confirmation of gravity traveling at the speed of light actually? We've never seen gravity waves after all.
Or is it more implicit confirmation since the GR formulas all involve c somewhere or another, and something like Mercury's precession validated gravity's speed alongside with it?
I'm not sufficiently knowledgeable about general relativity to answer this. Hopefully some of our relativity mavens will jump in and help.

Chet
 

Related to Would the Earth Have A Delay Reaction if the Sun disappeared

1. What would happen to the Earth if the Sun disappeared?

If the Sun were to suddenly disappear, the Earth would no longer receive its heat and light. This would cause the Earth's surface temperature to rapidly drop, leading to a global freeze and ultimately resulting in the death of all living organisms on the planet.

2. Would the Earth's orbit be affected if the Sun disappeared?

Yes, the Earth's orbit around the Sun is dependent on the Sun's gravitational pull. Without the Sun's gravitational force, the Earth would continue moving in a straight path, causing it to eventually drift off into space.

3. How long would it take for the Earth to feel the effects of the Sun's disappearance?

It would take about 8 minutes and 20 seconds for the Earth to feel the effects of the Sun's disappearance. This is because the speed of light, which is how long it takes for the Sun's light to reach the Earth, is 8 minutes and 20 seconds.

4. Would the Earth survive if the Sun disappeared?

No, the Earth would not survive if the Sun disappeared. The Sun provides essential energy and heat for life on Earth to exist. Without it, the Earth would become a frozen, lifeless planet.

5. Is it possible for the Sun to suddenly disappear?

No, it is not possible for the Sun to suddenly disappear. The Sun is a stable star and its energy is generated through nuclear fusion. It is estimated that the Sun will continue to burn for another 5 billion years before it dies out.

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