Working in Physics Research/Industry w/o a PhD (UK)

In summary, an undergraduate with a BSc in Theoretical and Computational Physics can potentially do an extra year as an undergraduate and come out with an MSci/MPhys degree, but this would mean graduating when they are 32 or 33 which is too old for some families. If the undergraduate only wants to do a PhD, there are many jobs around that are suitable for someone with just a BSc.
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I live in the UK and I am an undergraduate at the moment, due to graduate in 2017 with a BSc in Theoretical and Computational Physics.

I have the option at the end of the next academic year to do an extra year as an undergraduate and come out with an MSci/MPhys (instead of the BSc) . I am already 26, and would be 28 when I graduate in 2017, or would be 29 if I chose to do that extra year.

I really would like to do a PhD, but that would mean graduating with a PhD when I turn 32/33! So the only thing making me think otherwise is simply how old I would be.

If I chose to just graduate in 2017 with a BSc, are there many jobs around actually in the physics research/industry for people with just a BSc? Anything really where I would actually get to use my degree, even if it was like a technician or even something like a patent attorney etc, but actually doing/helping with science?
 
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If it is only your age that is of concern and you do not feel or need to provide for a family, why not test the employment waters with some applications, but also apply to stay in school so if you do not get a premium job offer, you continue your education?
 
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If it is only your age that is of concern and you do not feel or need to provide for a family, why not test the employment waters with some applications, but also apply to stay in school so if you do not get a premium job offer, you continue your education?

Thanks, yeah I think at the moment I will apply for PhD places no matter what, as it will not hurt and can always decline if needs be. I have just been looking into part-time PhD opportunities, althought not sure if I could get funding for that; in the UK, many graduate get their science PhD places fully paid for with a healthy tax free stipend too which is more than enough to live on.

Why would I not be able to provide for a family without a PhD? OK maybe any salary I would receive would be slightly higher but before I went back into education I was earning a measly £13000 per year, and with my physics degree I have seen many graduate schemes (although most not directly to do with physics) where the starting salary is double that ~£25000. Plus many people are able to provide for their families on much less than that. I know growing up my families household income was only ~£22000 and that was with two siblings, and we turned out OK :)
 

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1. What career opportunities are available in physics research/industry without a PhD in the UK?

As a non-PhD physicist in the UK, you can still pursue a variety of careers in both research and industry. Some options include working as a research assistant, laboratory technician, data analyst, or technical writer. Additionally, many companies in industries such as aerospace, energy, and technology hire non-PhD physicists for roles in research and development, quality control, and product design.

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