Work, potential and kinetic energy help

In summary: This conversation discusses homework. A 30 kg block is slid down an inclined plane 5 m long with a height of 3 m from the floor. If the force of friction is 50 N, find the work done by the friction and the final velocity at the end of the plane. The incorrect answer is 6.49 m/s.
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PhizKid
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Homework Statement


A 30 kg block is slid down an inclined plane 5 m long with a height of 3 m from the floor. If the force of friction is 50 N, find the work done by the friction and the final velocity at the end of the plane.


Homework Equations


W = F*d
mgh = (1/2)mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


50 N * 5 m * cos(180) = -250 J

Incorrect

30 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 * 3 m = (1/2) * 30 kg * v^2
882 = 15*v^2
58.8 = v^2
v = 7.6681 m/s

Incorrect

I don't know how else to approach this.
 
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  • #2
PhizKid said:
50 N * 5 m * cos(180) = -250 J

Incorrect
Nothing wrong with this. They probably wanted just the magnitude of that work.

30 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 * 3 m = (1/2) * 30 kg * v^2
882 = 15*v^2
58.8 = v^2
v = 7.6681 m/s
You forgot about the friction.
 
  • #3
The answer says -150 J so I guess that's an error then.

How do I account for fricton in potential energy?
 
  • #4
PhizKid said:
The answer says -150 J so I guess that's an error then.
Looks like they used the 3 m distance by mistake.
How do I account for fricton in potential energy?
Initial mechanical energy + work done by friction = Final mechanical energy
 
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So then I get (30 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 * 3 m) + (-250 J) = (1/2) * 30 kg * v^2

I get 6.49 m/s which is also incorrect (solution is 7.3 m/s).
 
  • #6
PhizKid said:
So then I get (30 kg * 9.8 m/s^2 * 3 m) + (-250 J) = (1/2) * 30 kg * v^2

I get 6.49 m/s which is also incorrect (solution is 7.3 m/s).
I agree with your answer. Even using their incorrect value for the work done by friction you won't get their answer.

What book is this from?
 
  • #7
Something our professor wrote :-p

It's so intimidating because I feel like I'm not getting the concepts when it just turns out the solutions are incorrect...so I'm still not confident enough to say that my answer is correct and the answer key is not
 
  • #8
It is unfortunate when the professor makes errors, but it happens.

Your textbook should have problems for you to work on. Often some of the answers are given.

You could also supplement your text with a problem book, such as a Schaum's Outline.
 

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Work is defined as the transfer of energy that occurs when a force is applied to an object and the object moves in the same direction as the force.

What is potential energy?

Potential energy is the energy that an object has due to its position or state. It is the energy that can be converted into other forms of energy, such as kinetic energy.

What is kinetic energy?

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How are potential and kinetic energy related?

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