Will the ball rotate on a frictionless slope?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of rotation on a frictionless slope. Despite the absence of friction, it is observed that a ball placed on the slope will still rotate relative to the contact point due to the torque created by the net force of gravity. The conversation also delves into a simpler problem to explain this concept further. However, it is clarified that while the ball may acquire angular momentum, it will not rotate without friction.
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There is a ball placed on a frictionless slope. As we all know that, since there is no friction, the ball will not rotate. But after drawing a free-body-diagram and decomposing the gravity, we find that the net force mgsinθ has a torque relative to the contacting point with the value of mgsinθR. Then it means that, relative to the contacting point, the ball will rotate. It seems that I am in a dilemma now. Can anyone help me explain this?
 
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Welcome to PF, aerograce.

It might help to think through a somewhat simpler problem. Imagine dropping a circular disk from rest so that it falls vertically downward with no rotation. The force of gravity is the only force acting on the disk. At some arbitrary time during the fall, suppose you choose a point on the rim of the disk as origin for calculating torque, as shown in the figure. Is there a net torque about this point? If so, why doesn't the disk rotate?
 

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The ball does not roll, it slides.
The observation that there would be a torque about the contact point is correct - but, without the friction, the contact point cannot act as a pivot for the torque.

To see this, draw the free-body diagram.
[edit]Ah TSny beat me to it...
 
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It will acquire angular momentum relative to the contact point: linear velocity x orthogonal displacement. But that does not mean it will rotate. To rotate it must acquire angular velocity about its mass centre.
 
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Based on the information provided, it is possible that the ball will rotate on the frictionless slope. While there is no friction to cause the ball to roll, the force of gravity acting on the ball will create a torque relative to the contacting point. This torque could potentially cause the ball to rotate, depending on the angle of the slope and the mass and size of the ball.

However, it is important to note that this is a theoretical scenario and in reality, there are many other factors that could affect the motion of the ball, such as air resistance, imperfections in the slope, and the shape and surface of the ball. Additionally, the force of gravity may not be the only force acting on the ball, as there could be other external forces such as air currents or magnetic fields.

In conclusion, while it is possible for the ball to rotate on a frictionless slope, it is important to consider all factors and limitations when making scientific conclusions. Further experimentation and analysis would be needed to fully understand the potential motion of the ball in this scenario.
 

Related to Will the ball rotate on a frictionless slope?

1. Will the ball rotate on a frictionless slope if there is no external force?

Yes, the ball will rotate on a frictionless slope even if there is no external force acting on it. This is because the slope itself provides a force due to gravity, causing the ball to move and rotate.

2. How does friction impact the rotation of a ball on a slope?

Friction can play a major role in the rotation of a ball on a slope. If the slope is not completely frictionless, the ball will experience some resistance as it rolls and rotates, which may affect its speed and direction of rotation.

3. What factors affect the rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope?

The main factors that affect the rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope are the angle of the slope, the speed and direction of the ball, and any external forces such as air resistance.

4. Is the rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope constant?

No, the rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope is not necessarily constant. It depends on the initial conditions and any external forces acting on the ball. For example, a ball may speed up or slow down due to the angle of the slope or air resistance.

5. How can we calculate the rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope?

The rotation of a ball on a frictionless slope can be calculated using principles of rotational motion, such as torque and angular momentum. These calculations take into account the initial conditions and any external forces acting on the ball.

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