Why Methanol is Best for ASA Titration w/ NaOH

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In summary: Answers to other questions:The CTC handbook lists ASA to be soluble with alcohols, ethers and chlorofoam. Methanol is a polar solvent, which means it can dissolve other polar substances.
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Why would methanol be a better solvent for ASA compared to ether or chloroform, when NaOH is used for titration?

I think I have an idea why:

NaOH is only soluble in polar solvents. Methanol is polar, while ether and chloroform are not. . . .

Does this have anything to do with it.
 
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Do you want us to guess that ASA symbolizes acetyl salicylic acid?
 
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Yeah, I know it's an acid. . .

"The CTC handbook lists ASA to be soluble with alcohols, ethers and chlorofoam"

If the solvent is not a problematic variable, then it has to be the titration substance (NaOH)

For this particular lab, NaOH is the reason ethers and chlorofoams are not acceptable as solvents . . .
 
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Phenolphthalein was used to indicate the moment the solution became basic.

Phenolphthalein is soluble in methanol, but is it soluble in chloroform or ether?
 
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Phenolphthalein is pretty well visible in very low concentrations, so its solubility is not a factor here (it is not a factor even during titration in water).
 
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From wiki

"Phenolphthalein is insoluble in water, and is usually dissolved in alcohols for use in experiments. It is itself a weak acid, which can lose H+ ions in solution. The phenolphthalein molecule is colorless. However, the phenolphthalein ion is pink. When a base is added to the phenolphthalein, the molecule ⇌ ions equilibrium shifts to the right, leading to more ionization as H+ ions are removed. This is predicted by Le Chatelier's principle."

It says it is usually dissolved in alcohol (such as methanol). There has to be a reason for this.
 
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rss14 said:
It says it is usually dissolved in alcohol (such as methanol). There has to be a reason for this.

An obvious one - it has to be added to water solution, but it is insoluble in water. Hence it is dissolved in methanol (or ethanol) and you add it to water in form of alcoholic solution. This way after dilution of alcohol you end with water pheolpthalein solution, could be also with a very fine supsension. That's enough.
 
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And another question. Can the methanol provide a source of error? Can a certain volume of NaOH dissolve into methanol instead of react with ASA to neutralize it? Will this lead to a higher reading of NaOH used to neutralize ASA?
 
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Borek said:
An obvious one - it has to be added to water solution, but it is insoluble in water. Hence it is dissolved in methanol (or ethanol) and you add it to water in form of alcoholic solution. This way after dilution of alcohol you end with water pheolpthalein solution, could be also with a very fine supsension. That's enough.

So this same process can be done by chloroform and ether?
 
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Another question:
Phenolphthalein stays purple when the pH is between 8.2 and 12. When NaOH completely neutralizes ASA, the pH will be 7. This means an excess of NaOH (the base) had to be added until the solid purple appears.

This is a source of error correct? A universal indicator should have been used ?
 
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rss14 said:
Another question:
Phenolphthalein stays purple when the pH is between 8.2 and 12. When NaOH completely neutralizes ASA, the pH will be 7. This means an excess of NaOH (the base) had to be added until the solid purple appears.

This is a source of error correct? A universal indicator should have been used ?

Nvm, ASA is a weak acid, and the equivalence point is at a pH of 8.2.

Can someone please answer my other question though?
 
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What do you mean by "NaOH will dissolve into methanol". Try to precisely describe the titration set up and where this methanol is.
 

Related to Why Methanol is Best for ASA Titration w/ NaOH

1. Why is methanol the best solvent for ASA titration with NaOH?

Methanol is the preferred solvent for ASA (acetylsalicylic acid) titration with NaOH (sodium hydroxide) because it has a high solubility for both ASA and NaOH. This means that a larger amount of ASA and NaOH can be dissolved in methanol, resulting in a more accurate and precise titration.

2. How does methanol affect the accuracy of the titration process?

Methanol is a non-reactive solvent, meaning it does not react with either ASA or NaOH. This allows for a more accurate titration as there are no competing reactions or side reactions that can affect the results. Additionally, methanol has a low boiling point, making it easier to remove from the titration solution after the reaction is complete.

3. Can other solvents be used for ASA titration with NaOH?

Yes, other solvents such as ethanol or water can be used for ASA titration with NaOH. However, they may not be as effective as methanol due to their lower solubility for ASA and NaOH. This can lead to inaccurate results and a longer titration process.

4. What precautions should be taken when using methanol for ASA titration with NaOH?

Methanol is a highly flammable and toxic substance, so proper precautions should be taken when handling it. This includes wearing gloves, goggles, and a lab coat, and working in a well-ventilated area. It is also important to avoid direct contact with skin and to use a fume hood when working with large quantities of methanol.

5. Are there any alternatives to using methanol for ASA titration with NaOH?

Yes, there are alternative solvents that can be used for ASA titration with NaOH, such as ethanol or water. However, methanol is still considered the best option due to its high solubility and non-reactive nature. If using an alternative solvent, it is important to ensure that it is compatible with both ASA and NaOH to avoid any potential errors in the titration process.

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