Why isn't path integral of H-field 0?

In summary, the conversation discusses an infinite plane of current where the magnetic field above the plane is clockwise and below the plane is counterclockwise. The path integral does not equal 0 because the loop encloses a non-zero current. This is due to Ampere's law, which states that the integral of the magnetic field is equal to the enclosed current. The conversation also discusses the path of the field and its direction, ultimately concluding that the magnitude of the field is equal to half of the surface current density.
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yosimba2000
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So for an infinite plane of current, current traveling in the X direction, the magnetic field everywhere above the plane is going clockwise, and the m. field below the plane is going counterclockwise.

So the path integral is Integral of H dot dl = Current Enclosed

Why, in this video, does the path integral NOT equal 0?



Isnt the top path going from Y = -L to L, and the bottom path going from Y = -L to L?

So you get ∫H ⋅ dl = ∫Hydirection⋅ ⋅ dyydirection + ∫Hnegativeydirection⋅ ⋅ dynegativeydirection

Then you get Hy, y from -L to L, plus Hy, y from L to -L?

So you get H(L - -L) + H(-L - L), and you get 2HL-2HL = 0?
 
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yosimba2000 said:
So for an infinite plane of current, current traveling in the X direction, the magnetic field everywhere above the plane is going clockwise, and the m. field below the plane is going counterclockwise.
No, the magnetic field is parallel to the sheet of current both above and below the plane.
yosimba2000 said:
Why, in this video, does the path integral NOT equal 0?
Because the loop encloses a non-zero current.
yosimba2000 said:
Isnt the top path going from Y = -L to L, and the bottom path going from Y = -L to L?
Ampere's laws states that
$$\oint\mathbf{H}\cdot d\mathbf{l}=I_{enclosed}$$
Using ##K## to represent the surface current density, this becomes
$$H_{x}L+(-H_{x})(-L)=2H_{x}L=KL$$
So the magnitude of the field is
$$H_{x}=\frac{K}{2}$$
 
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I think I see it. I was trying to add the magnitudes without account for the directions.
 

Related to Why isn't path integral of H-field 0?

1. Why is the path integral of the H-field not equal to zero?

The path integral of the H-field is not equal to zero because it represents the sum of the magnetic field over a closed path, and the magnetic field is typically non-zero at all points along the path. This is due to the presence of magnetic sources, such as currents or permanent magnets, which generate a magnetic field.

2. Can the path integral of the H-field ever be equal to zero?

Yes, the path integral of the H-field can be equal to zero in certain scenarios. This can occur if the magnetic field is constant along the entire path, or if the path is chosen in such a way that the contributions from different portions of the path cancel each other out.

3. How is the path integral of the H-field related to electromagnetic waves?

The path integral of the H-field is related to electromagnetic waves through Maxwell's equations. These equations describe how electric and magnetic fields interact and propagate through space. The path integral of the H-field is a way to quantify the magnetic field along a specific path, which can be used to understand the behavior of electromagnetic waves.

4. What is the significance of the path integral of the H-field in electromagnetism?

The path integral of the H-field is significant in electromagnetism because it helps to describe the behavior and interaction of magnetic fields with other electromagnetic phenomena. It is also a key component of Maxwell's equations and plays a crucial role in understanding and predicting the behavior of electromagnetic waves and devices.

5. Can the path integral of the H-field be used to calculate the total magnetic flux through a surface?

Yes, the path integral of the H-field can be used to calculate the total magnetic flux through a surface. This is because the path integral of the H-field is related to the magnetic field strength, which is a key parameter in determining the magnetic flux through a surface. By integrating the H-field along a closed path enclosing a surface, the total magnetic flux through that surface can be calculated.

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