Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?

In summary, the normal force is a reaction force that is always perpendicular to the surface in contact. This means that when an external force is applied at an angle, the normal force will be in the opposite direction and perpendicular to the surface. However, this does not imply that all forces acting on a surface must be perpendicular, as there can also be parallel forces like friction. The normal force is important for calculations, especially when dealing with coefficients of friction. It is also important to choose the correct coordinate system for solving problems involving forces on surfaces.
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Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?
I understand that normal force is the upward reaction force by a surface due to an external action force pushing the surface. Then, if I apply an extermal force on a non inclined surface at an angle, let's say 30 degrees, shouldn't the normal force have the exactly opposite direction and point 30 degrees above the ground, instead of 90 degrees? Does this imply that any force acting on a surface must be perpendicular to the surface? Then if i apply a force at an angle on the ground, and the force acting on the ground is only the y component,then where does the x component go? This question is really frustrating.
 
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Sorry for the typo xD
Should be "confused" and "external"
 
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John Pang said:
Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?
Well - that's what it is. It's the force that's normal to a surface (definition). The question could be "why use the normal force for calculations?" It's often useful to resolve forces into two orthogonal directions and that can often mean taking the force parallel to a surface and the normal force. Which directions to choose and why is usually based on eliminating some force(s) for one of the equations you write. For instance, in calculating trajectories, we usually talk in terms of horizontal and vertical components because there is no g in the horizontal direction. (Entirely different example, I know but it illustrates my point.)
Why would one use the normal force in your case? The coefficient of friction is the ratio of the parallel and normal forces so, when there's slippage, that can help to solve your equations because there's another simple equation that you can write down.
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Does this imply that any force acting on a surface must be perpendicular to the surface?
Definitely not. If you push a carpet along with a broom, there's a normal and a horizontal force.
If you want a less vague comment then you could draw the diagram and state the actual problem and we could work with it.
Your problem is a very common one for students because the teacher or the guy who wrote the worked example just chose directions in an apparently arbitrary way. They will have used their vast experience to make their choice (same as when you re-arrange an equation in a particular way and suddenly everything cancels and the answer just fall out). The fact is that you don't actually have to choose it right in the first place to get the right answer. The only thing is that choosing the axes and even the co ordinates to be most suitable reduces the donkey work of manipulating the Maths. The more simple examples you do, the more obvious it gets to choose the right way through. (That's a terrible answer for you, I know, but it's true.) You can really get to hate smartarse people who have lots of experience. :mad:
Show us the actual problem and we may be able to help.
 
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John Pang said:
Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?
I understand that normal force is the upward reaction force by a surface due to an external action force pushing the surface. Then, if I apply an extermal force on a non inclined surface at an angle, let's say 30 degrees,

I think its a problem of visualization:

As some body applies a force - on a surface one does it by contact so there exists a plane or region of contact-
so the surface and the body can push each other normally;
there is no other way than the normal direction for the surface to react to the push- though it appears as normal to the surface but it is normal to the "surfaces in contact". suppose a cyclist tilts his cycle on the road at an angle say 30 degree- he is pushing at an angular position but the surface of tire and road contact is horizontal plane -so the road will react normal to it by a normal reaction.

Suppose you are pushing a body kept on inclined plane horizontally by a force F -the inclined plane will not feel a push equal to F .
if you resolve the force along the plane and normal to the plane , the normal reaction should be normal to the plane of contact and that is perpendicular to the plane. the other part of the impressed force can try to move the body along the plane.
 
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John Pang said:
Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?
I understand that normal force is the upward reaction force by a surface due to an external action force pushing the surface. Then, if I apply an extermal force on a non inclined surface at an angle, let's say 30 degrees, shouldn't the normal force have the exactly opposite direction and point 30 degrees above the ground, instead of 90 degrees?
that is the resultant force, not the normal force
Does this imply that any force acting on a surface must be perpendicular to the surface?
no
Then if i apply a force at an angle on the ground, and the force acting on the ground is only the y component
no, the perpendicular component is the normal force
then where does the x component go?
the parallel component is the parallel force like friction force.
This question is really frustrating.
By definition, the normal force is the force or component of the force that is perpendicular to the surface. When one body is in contact with the other, there exists the possibility of a force perpendicular to the surface and a force parallel to the surface. The perpendicular force is called the normal force and the parallel force is usually a friction force or some other force like a pin that causes a restraint in that direction.
 
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Thanks all ! I think i get it. Maybe it is just the matter of definition for calculation purpose.
 
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John Pang said:
Thanks all ! I think i get it. Maybe it is just the matter of definition for calculation purpose.
Exactly. Start the job with a view to making it easier.
 

Related to Why is normal force always perpendicular to the surface?

1. What is the normal force?

The normal force is a contact force that acts perpendicularly to the surface of an object when it is in contact with another object. It is a reaction force to an applied force and prevents objects from passing through each other.

2. How is the normal force calculated?

The normal force is typically calculated using Newton's second law, which states that the sum of all forces acting on an object is equal to its mass multiplied by its acceleration. In simpler terms, the normal force is equal to the weight of the object, or the force of gravity acting on it, in the opposite direction.

3. What factors affect the normal force?

The normal force is affected by the weight of the object, the angle at which it is placed on a surface, and the surface's characteristics (such as friction or elasticity). Other factors that can influence the normal force include the presence of other forces, such as tension or compression, acting on the object.

4. Why is understanding the normal force important in physics?

The normal force is an essential concept in physics because it helps us understand the balance of forces in a given situation. It allows us to analyze the motion of objects and predict their behavior based on the forces acting on them. Understanding the normal force is crucial in fields such as mechanics, engineering, and physics.

5. Can the normal force be greater than the weight of an object?

Yes, the normal force can be greater than the weight of an object in certain situations. For example, if an object is placed on an inclined plane, the normal force will be greater than the weight of the object because it is acting at an angle. Additionally, if the object is accelerating, the normal force can be greater than the weight as well. However, in most cases, the normal force is equal to the weight of the object.

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