Why integrate at these points? (Electric potential of a sphere)

In summary, to find the potential inside a uniformly charged solid sphere, you need to integrate the electric field from infinity to the point inside the sphere. This integration is split into two parts, from infinity to the surface of the sphere (R) and from the surface of the sphere to the point inside (r). This is necessary because the mathematical expression for the electric field is different inside and outside the sphere. The point of zero potential is chosen to be at infinity, so the potential difference between two points is found by integrating from the point of zero potential to the desired point.
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Homework Statement


Find the potential inside and outside a uniformly charged solid sphere of radius R and total charge q.


Homework Equations


V(r) = -∫E dl


The Attempt at a Solution



I just have a question about finding the potential inside the sphere. Why integrate from infinity to the surface of the sphere (infinity to R) and add the integral of inside the sphere (R to r, whatever radius is inside the sphere). I'm just having trouble visualizing this integration, and why the integral is structured the way it is. Thanks in advance!
 
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This is tied to the question: Where are you choosing V = 0?

Remember, when you integrate -∫E[itex]\cdot[/itex]dl between two points, you get the potential difference between those two points. So, if you want the potential at a point P, you can integrate from the point of zero potential to the point P.
 
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Thanks for the reply!

So, if I'm interpreting this correctly, since I choose V=0 to be at infinity (the potential goes to 0 really, really far away from the charged sphere), I can integrate from infinity to point P for the potential difference. If point P is outside the sphere, I'm finding the potential difference outside the sphere. To find the potential inside the sphere, I would need to find the potential outside to radius R AND from radius R to some arbitrary r inside the sphere, because the potential outside the sphere still affects the inside potential?
 
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To find the potential at a point inside the sphere, you need to integrate E from infinity to the point inside the sphere. Since the mathematical expression for E outside is different from the expression for E inside the sphere, you have to break up the integration into two parts.
 
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Integrating at these points allows us to consider the potential at any arbitrary point within the sphere. By integrating from infinity to the surface of the sphere, we are taking into account the potential due to the entire charge distribution of the sphere. This is necessary because the potential at any point within the sphere is influenced by the charge distribution both inside and outside of that point. By also integrating from the surface of the sphere to a specific radius within the sphere, we are able to isolate and calculate the potential due to the charge distribution within the sphere at that specific point. This integration method allows us to accurately determine the potential at any point within the sphere.
 

Related to Why integrate at these points? (Electric potential of a sphere)

1. What is the significance of integrating at specific points for calculating the electric potential of a sphere?

The electric potential of a sphere is a measure of the distribution of electric charge on the surface of the sphere. Integrating at specific points allows us to calculate the potential at a particular point on the surface of the sphere and determine how the charge is distributed.

2. How do the integration points affect the accuracy of the electric potential calculation?

The integration points play a crucial role in the accuracy of the electric potential calculation. The more integration points we use, the more accurate our calculation will be. However, using too many integration points can also lead to computational errors. Therefore, a balance between accuracy and computational efficiency must be achieved.

3. How can we determine the optimal integration points for calculating the electric potential of a sphere?

The optimal integration points can be determined through trial and error or by using mathematical techniques such as Gauss-Legendre quadrature. These techniques help us find the most accurate integration points for a given number of integration points.

4. Can we use a different integration method instead of integrating at specific points?

Yes, there are other integration methods that can be used to calculate the electric potential of a sphere. For example, we can use the Monte Carlo method, where random points are chosen on the surface of the sphere and the potential is calculated at these points. This method can be computationally intensive but can also provide accurate results.

5. How does the size of the sphere affect the choice of integration points?

The size of the sphere does not affect the choice of integration points. The number of integration points depends on the desired accuracy of the calculation and not the size of the sphere. However, as the size of the sphere increases, more integration points may be required to accurately calculate the electric potential.

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