Why Do Some Stars Grow So Massive?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the differences in mass among stars and the factors that contribute to these variations. It is suggested that chemical composition, rotational velocity, and available gas in the nebular cloud all play a role in determining the mass of a star. The possibility of continued mass accumulation after ignition through stellar accretion rates is also mentioned. The topic of collisions with other stars and the connection between red giants and the production of higher elements through nuclear fusion are briefly touched upon.
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Why are some stars so much more massive than others? Eta Carinae and The Pistol Star are 100X more massive than the Sun. When stars are forming, doesn't hydrogen fusion begin at about the same mass and density for all stars? Or does chemical composition and rotational velocity of the nebular gas cloud contribute to such huge variations? I assume Eta Carinae had a larger amount of available gas in the first place. But if fusion can start when the star has accumulated smaller mass like our Sun, why doesn't it ignite and push the remaining gas away before growing larger? Can it accumulate more mass from the gas cloud after igniting? I also assume collisions with other stars are rare enough not to be considered.
 
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I suggest that you Google "stellar accretion rates" and start browsing the papers and following the citations in them.
 
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mjacobsca said:
Why are some stars so much more massive than others? Eta Carinae and The Pistol Star are 100X more massive than the Sun. When stars are forming, doesn't hydrogen fusion begin at about the same mass and density for all stars? Or does chemical composition and rotational velocity of the nebular gas cloud contribute to such huge variations? I assume Eta Carinae had a larger amount of available gas in the first place. But if fusion can start when the star has accumulated smaller mass like our Sun, why doesn't it ignite and push the remaining gas away before growing larger? Can it accumulate more mass from the gas cloud after igniting? I also assume collisions with other stars are rare enough not to be considered.

From what I understand, red giants are really long lived stars and much less dense and cooler than the short-lived massive hot stars that produce the higher elements in nuclear fusion and distribute them by becoming supernovae.
 
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The honest answer is that some stars (not 100x) such as hypergiants, much like supermassive black holes, don't have one clear explanation. Stellar formation isn't exactly a mystery, but it's an ongoing realm of study with unanswered questions.
 
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There are several factors that can contribute to why some stars are much more massive than others. One factor is the amount of available gas in the nebular cloud from which the star forms. As you mentioned, Eta Carinae likely had a larger amount of gas to begin with, allowing it to accumulate more mass and grow larger.

Another factor is the chemical composition of the gas cloud. Stars that form from gas with a higher concentration of heavy elements, such as carbon and oxygen, may be more massive because these elements can help to increase the density and temperature of the gas, making it easier for fusion to occur.

The rotational velocity of the gas cloud can also play a role in the size and mass of a star. If the cloud is rotating rapidly, it can help to prevent the gas from collapsing and forming a larger, more massive star.

In terms of hydrogen fusion, it is true that it typically begins at about the same mass and density for all stars. However, the rate of fusion can vary depending on the star's mass. For example, a more massive star will have a higher rate of fusion and will therefore consume its fuel faster, leading to a shorter lifespan.

It is also possible for a star to continue to accumulate mass after fusion has started. This can happen through processes such as accretion, where the star pulls in material from its surrounding environment.

Overall, the mass and size of a star are determined by a combination of factors including the amount and composition of gas available, the rotational velocity of the gas cloud, and the rate of fusion. While collisions with other stars may not be a major factor, they can still play a role in the formation of massive stars through processes such as mergers.
 

Related to Why Do Some Stars Grow So Massive?

1. Why are some stars so much larger than others?

There are a few factors that contribute to the size of a star. One of the main factors is the amount of gas and dust available for the star to form from. Stars with more material to work with can grow larger. Additionally, the temperature and pressure within the star also play a role in determining its size.

2. How do stars grow in size?

Stars grow in size by accumulating mass through the process of accretion. This means that they attract and pull in material from their surrounding environment. As more and more material is added, the star's gravity increases and it can grow larger and larger.

3. Can stars continue to grow indefinitely?

No, stars cannot continue to grow indefinitely. Eventually, they reach a point where the energy produced by nuclear fusion in their core balances out the pull of gravity. At this point, the star is considered to be in a stable state and will not continue to grow in size.

4. What is the largest known star?

The largest known star is called UY Scuti and it is located in the constellation Scutum. It has a radius of over 1,700 times that of the Sun, making it much larger than our own star. However, there may be even larger stars out there that we have yet to discover.

5. Do all stars eventually become massive?

No, not all stars become massive. The size of a star depends on its initial mass and the conditions of its formation. Some stars may start off with a large amount of material to work with, while others may not have as much. Additionally, factors such as the star's environment and interactions with other stars can also affect its final size.

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