Why are some precalc topics taught but not used in calc?

In summary, while some may argue that complex and imaginary numbers are not used in calculus, they are actually crucial in higher level math courses such as differential equations. Similarly, systems of equations are also important in calculus and are commonly encountered in courses on linear algebra. Therefore, these pre calculus topics are necessary for a strong foundation in mathematics and should not be overlooked.
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There are quite a few pre calc topics that are not used in calc. For example, complex and imaginary numbers. Also, systems of equations
why?
 
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Who says that complex numbers aren't used in calculus? Or systems of equations? They're such basic topics in mathematics that get used everywhere.
 
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BUT those ARE used in Calculus. If you try to ignore complex numbers, then Calculus 2 will clobber you. Systems of Equations will be used in your Calculus 2 or Calculus 3 or both.
 
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annoyinggirl said:
For example, complex and imaginary numbers.

Two examples:
1) Finding the integral ##\int e^x \sin(x)dx## can be done with conventional methods by applying integration by parts twice (and by recognizing a little trick). But it can also be done quite easily by complex numbers, and then you don't need integration by parts at all. The trick is to write ##\sin(x)## as complex exponentials.

2) We have an equality: ##\frac{1}{1-x^2} = \sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} x^{2n}##, but this is only true if ##|x|<1##. It is easy to see why this cannot be extended beyond this, as ##\frac{1}{1-x^2}## is not defined in ##x=1##. So the convergence of series is tied to singularities of the function. But now consider ##\frac{1}{1+x^2}= \sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} (-1)^n x^{2n}##. This is also valid only for ##|x|<1##. But now it is not at all clear why it breaks down beyond ##|x|<1##, as the function has no singularities. Complex numbers solve this neatly by saying the function has a singularity as ##\pm i##.

Also, systems of equations

Consider (for example) partial fraction decomposition in calc 2. This naturally yields a system of equation. There are many many examples of systems of equations throughout physics and math.
 
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annoyinggirl said:
There are quite a few pre calc topics that are not used in calc. For example, complex and imaginary numbers. Also, systems of equations
why?

I think a pre calculus course is supposed to prepare you for doing calculus and beyond . So if you take courses more advanced that the first semesters of calculus, you'll probably encounter complex numbers and systems of equations. (e.g. complex numbers are encountered in courses on differential equations, system of equations are encountered in a course on linear algebra).
 

Related to Why are some precalc topics taught but not used in calc?

1. Why are some precalc topics taught but not used in calc?

There are a few reasons why some precalc topics may be taught but not used in calc. One reason is that precalc covers a wide range of topics, and not all of them are directly applicable to calculus. Another reason is that precalc is often seen as a prerequisite for calculus, so it may cover topics that are important for building a foundation in math, but not necessarily used in calculus itself. Additionally, precalc may introduce concepts that are more advanced or complex versions of topics that are eventually used in calculus.

2. What are some examples of precalc topics that are not used in calc?

Some examples of precalc topics that are typically not used in calc include polar coordinates, matrices and determinants, and complex numbers. These topics may be introduced in precalc, but are not typically used in calculus courses.

3. Are there any benefits to learning precalc topics even if they are not used in calc?

Yes, there are several benefits to learning precalc topics, even if they are not directly used in calculus. Precalc covers a wide range of mathematical concepts and skills, many of which are important for building a strong foundation in math and preparing students for more advanced courses. Additionally, learning these topics can improve critical thinking and problem-solving skills.

4. Are there any precalc topics that are used in calc?

Yes, there are many precalc topics that are used in calc. Some examples include functions, graphs, and algebraic manipulation. These topics are typically covered in precalc but are essential for understanding and applying calculus concepts.

5. Can I skip precalc and go straight to calc?

It is generally not recommended to skip precalc and go straight to calc. Precalc serves as a foundation for calculus and covers important concepts and skills that are necessary for success in calc. Additionally, many colleges and universities require students to complete precalc before enrolling in calculus courses. If you are considering skipping precalc, it is important to consult with a math advisor or instructor to ensure that you have a strong understanding of the necessary topics.

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