What proof do we have that the universe is homogenous?

In summary, the book states that a universe is isotropic if it looks the same regardless of which direction you look at large enough scales. This can be observed through galaxy surveys and the CMB. However, proving homogeneity of the universe is difficult because it is a fundamental assumption in physics. The lack of evidence for any lack of homogeneity and isotropy supports the idea that the universe is homogeneous. This concept is further explained by the Copernican principle, which states that there is nothing special about our place in the universe.
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Definition given in a book I am following says that a universe that is homogenous looks the same from any location on large enough scales. How do we know this is true for our universe?
In the book, it states that a universe is isotropic if it looks the same regardless of which direction you look at large enough scales. This seems fairly easy to prove these days with observations from galaxy surveys and the CMB. However, how can we possibly prove that the university is homogenous (definition: the universe looks the same at large enough distances regardless of your location)?
 
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Like you said, we make observations. We can measure the distances to galaxies along with their direction and from that build a model and look at the distribution of galaxies at different scales. Obviously our observations are limited to our own observable universe, so there's a limit to how well we can verify the homogeneity at larger and larger scales.
 
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Summary:: Definition given in a book I am following says that a universe that is homogenous looks the same from any location on large enough scales. How do we know this is true for our universe?

In the book, it states that a universe is isotropic if it looks the same regardless of which direction you look at large enough scales. This seems fairly easy to prove these days with observations from galaxy surveys and the CMB. However, how can we possibly prove that the university is homogenous (definition: the universe looks the same at large enough distances regardless of your location)?
In physics you can't prove something like this. It must be a postulate - something you take as a fundamental assumption on which to base your theories. If the assumption is wrong then eventually you will find experimental evidence of this. What you can say is that currently there is no evidence for any lack of homegeneity or isotropy in the universe.
 
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In the book, it states that a universe is isotropic if it looks the same regardless of which direction you look at large enough scales. This seems fairly easy to prove these days with observations from galaxy surveys and the CMB. However, how can we possibly prove that the university is homogenous (definition: the universe looks the same at large enough distances regardless of your location)?
As you said, we can observe that universe looks isotropic from our perspective. Now if you accept that there is nothing special about our place in the universe and that it also looks isotropic from other places, you can say that universe is homogeneous.
I like this illustration taken from Weinberg's "The First Three Minutes", explaining why the universe is homogeneous when it is isotropic:

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Understood, thank y'all so much!

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Isotropy around any point in the universe, such as your navel, combined with the Copernican principle, implies isotropy around every point in the universe; and isotropy around every point in the universe does imply homogeneity
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It's from Barbara Ryden's book, by the way, on intro to cosmology.
 
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1. What is homogeneity in the context of the universe?

Homogeneity refers to the uniformity of the universe on a large scale. It means that the distribution of matter and energy is the same in all directions and at all locations in the universe.

2. How do we know that the universe is homogenous?

Scientists have observed the cosmic microwave background radiation, which is a remnant of the Big Bang, and found that it is nearly uniform in all directions. This supports the idea that the universe was once in a highly homogenous state.

3. What evidence supports the homogeneity of the universe?

In addition to the cosmic microwave background radiation, the large-scale structure of the universe also supports the idea of homogeneity. Galaxies and galaxy clusters are distributed in a relatively uniform manner, indicating a homogenous distribution of matter and energy.

4. Are there any exceptions to the homogeneity of the universe?

While the universe appears to be homogenous on a large scale, there are some small-scale variations in matter and energy. These variations are seen in the formation of galaxies, galaxy clusters, and other structures. However, on a large scale, the universe is still considered to be homogenous.

5. How does the homogeneity of the universe relate to the theory of the Big Bang?

The concept of homogeneity is a key component of the Big Bang theory. According to this theory, the universe began as a highly homogenous and dense state, and has been expanding and cooling ever since. The observed homogeneity of the universe is consistent with the predictions of the Big Bang theory.

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