What is the solution for a pulley system with 200N weight and 40N weight?

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In summary, the homework statement is a discussion about a pulley system and how it would be impossible to explain it without a diagram. The equations relate the acceleration of the blocks and the final velocity.
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Homework Statement



Pulley system, attachment below. Would be impossible to explain without a diagram.



Homework Equations



Wa = 200N
Va0=2m/s
t= 2 seconds
Wb= 40N
μK=0.2
g=9.81m/s^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay my attempted solution was this:

For block A:

40N + Fn+Tension =m1a

T - 40N*0.2=40N/9.81

Block 2

200 + Fn + Tension = m2a

200N + T = 200N/9.81

So lost to be honest!
 

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Recheck the forces on each of the blocks (I didn't see you include the force of friction anywhere??)

Also, please use the correct names of the blocks ("A" and "B") to avoid confusion :-p (you said "Block A" and "Block 2")
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Hint: (in case I go to sleep before you reply) it only takes 3 equations to solve this problem:
The "equation of forces" on block A
The "equation of forces" on block B
And an equation which relates the acceleration of block A to the acceleration of block B
 
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Ans:
final velocity= v(initial) + g(Wa-2μWb)/(4Wb+Wa)t
 
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Maharshi Roy said:
Ans:
final velocity= v(initial) + g(Wa-2μWb)/(4Wb+Wa)t

That is correct, but Stelios already knows the answer. He doesn't just want the answer, he wants to understand it.
 
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The downward force on block A is its weight minus twice the frictional force on B (twice because of the mechanical advantage of the two-fold pulley). This will be constant because (IIRC) sliding frictional force does not vary with speed.

That is ##F_A=W_A-2\mu_k W_B##

The mass of A is ##m_A=W_A/g##

The mass of B is ##m_B=W_B/g##

The acceleration of A is ##a_A=F_A/(m_A+2m_B)## The coefficient of 2 for ##m_B## is there because of the reverse mechanical advantage of the pulley: a downward force on the pulley translates to half that force on the single rope leading to B.

The speed at time ##t## will be ##v_{A0}+a_At##
 
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Thanks Andrew, I forgot to include note the fact that their is mechanical advantage as a result of two pulleys in the system.

And as for block a and block 2 I think it was just a typo :(
 

Related to What is the solution for a pulley system with 200N weight and 40N weight?

What is a pulley?

A pulley is a simple machine consisting of a wheel with a groove in its edge and a rope or cable passing over it. It is used to lift or move heavy objects by changing the direction of the force applied.

How does a pulley work?

A pulley works by distributing the weight of an object evenly across multiple ropes or cables. When one end of the rope is pulled down, the other end is lifted, making it easier to lift heavy objects.

What are the different types of pulleys?

There are three main types of pulleys: fixed, movable, and compound. Fixed pulleys have a stationary axle and are used to change the direction of a force. Movable pulleys have a moveable axle and are used to lift heavy objects. Compound pulleys combine fixed and movable pulleys to provide a mechanical advantage.

What is a pulley system?

A pulley system is a combination of multiple pulleys working together to lift or move heavy objects. It can be as simple as a single fixed pulley or as complex as a compound pulley system with multiple movable and fixed pulleys.

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