What is the significance of the nonholonomity condition in General Relativity?

In summary, the conversation discusses the conditions necessary for space and time to be nonholonomic. A nonholonomic basis is one where the basis vectors do not commute, and in polar coordinates, a vector field with unit radial and orthogonal tangential vectors would be nonholonomic. The conversation also touches on the relationship between dual vectors and partial derivatives, and the definition of a coordinate basis as a holonomic basis.
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samson
Hi everyone! Please what are the conditions necessary for space and time to be nonholonomic?
 
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To give a specific example. In polar coordinates, ##r, \theta##, a vector field that consists of unit radial vectors (often written as ##\hat{r}##), and orthogonal tangential vectors (often written as ##\hat{\theta}##) would be a non-holonomic basis. It might be more familiar in terms of the dual vectors (though the terminology might not be familiar, perhaps). dr and d##\theta## can be interpreted as dual vectors. Then dr and d##\theta## would be holonomic, and not normal (because the vectors don't have unit lengths). However, dr and ##r \, d\theta## would be non-holonmic, but normal, since the (dual) vectors do have unit length.

The notion of vectors as partial derivative operators and dual vectors gets some mention in Sean Caroll's lecture notes <<link>>, see for instance

In spacetime the simplest example of a dual vector is the gradient of a scalar function, the set of partial derivatives with respect to the spacetime coordinates, which we denote by “d”:

It's also worth looking up what a coordinate basis is. Note that "coordinate basis" is more or less just another term for "holonomic basis". (Perhaps some more mathematical sort will correct me if there is some tiny difference). If you look up "coordinate basis" in Caroll's lecture notes, you'll find that it's identified as being equiavalent to partial derivatives with respect to the coordaintes. So in our example a coordinate basis of vectors could be identified with partial derivative operators, such as ##\partial_r## or in different notation ##\frac{\partial}{\partial r}##. The identification of vectors as partial derivative operators is not very intuitive, but an important defintion for differential geometry.
 
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A holonomic basis is a basis where all of the basis vectors commute. Given a holonomic basis, it is possible to choose coordinates ##x^\mu## such that the basis vectors are the set of partial derivative operators ##\partial/\partial x^\mu##.
 
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samson said:
Hi everyone! Please what are the conditions necessary for space and time to be nonholonomic?
This is very helpful to me! Thanks for your time sir!
 
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Ben Niehoff said:
A holonomic basis is a basis where all of the basis vectors commute. Given a holonomic basis, it is possible to choose coordinates ##x^\mu## such that the basis vectors are the set of partial derivative operators ##\partial/\partial x^\mu##.

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Related to What is the significance of the nonholonomity condition in General Relativity?

What is the nonholonomity condition in GR?

The nonholonomity condition in GR refers to the requirement that the connection coefficients in the theory of general relativity must satisfy certain geometric constraints. These constraints arise from the geometry of spacetime and are necessary for the theory to accurately describe the curvature of spacetime.

Why is the nonholonomity condition important in GR?

The nonholonomity condition is important because it ensures that the equations of general relativity are consistent with the geometric structure of spacetime. Without this condition, the theory would not accurately describe the behavior of massive objects in curved spacetime, such as planetary orbits around a massive star.

How does the nonholonomity condition affect the equations of GR?

The nonholonomity condition affects the equations of GR by imposing additional constraints on the connection coefficients, which in turn affect the curvature of spacetime. These constraints are necessary to ensure that the equations of GR are consistent with the observed behavior of massive objects in the presence of strong gravitational fields.

What are some consequences of violating the nonholonomity condition in GR?

If the nonholonomity condition is violated, the equations of GR would not accurately describe the curvature of spacetime, leading to incorrect predictions about the behavior of massive objects in strong gravitational fields. This could potentially lead to discrepancies between the theory and observations, and undermine the validity of GR as a description of gravity.

Are there any alternative theories of gravity that do not require the nonholonomity condition?

Yes, there are some alternative theories of gravity that do not require the nonholonomity condition, such as scalar-tensor theories and modified gravity theories. However, these theories have not been as successful in explaining observations as GR, and the nonholonomity condition remains an essential aspect of the theory of general relativity.

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