What happens if you flip an infinite heads and tails coin?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of flipping a coin with infinite heads and tails and the implications for probability theory. It is clarified that a single fair coin has one obverse and one reverse, and the question of infinite flips is explored. The relevance of Bayesian statistics and population size in this scenario is also mentioned. It is concluded that the Strong Law of Large Numbers states that the sample average will converge to the expectation, with a probability of 1, if the coin is fair.
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Tungamirai
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What happens if you flip a coin with infinite heads and infinite tails? I am not sure if this is the right place to post this question, or if my question even makes sense! just thought about it after reading about the simulation argument
 
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Your question does not make sense. A single fair coin has one obverse and one reverse. There are not an infinity of countable anything. Frequentism is at the root of the failure of conventional statistics, particularly in describing our singular universe. Look into Bayesian statistics.
 
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Bayesian statistics just involves conditional probabilities - I'm not quite sure with its relevance to the original question.

You should look at probability theory to understand what constraints a space has to have for it to be a probability space.

If you flip a coin that has two outcomes (heads and tails) infinitely then then the population distribution will be represented by the relative frequencies of the coin toss and the parameter will be a function of said distribution. The infinite part is what matters here as it defines the population distribution and hence the population parameter.

It does not contain any conditional information however - just the zeroth order distribution for a coin toss stochastic process with a parameter p.
 
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Are you really asking about the effect of population size( number of coin flips)?
 
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First you have to know what infinite means. ##\frac{\infty}{\infty}## can be anything. Are there 100 times as many heads as tails? Or are there exactly as many heads as tails?
 
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Tungamirai said:
What happens if you flip a coin with infinite heads and infinite tails? I am not sure if this is the right place to post this question, or if my question even makes sense! just thought about it after reading about the simulation argument
Is there a "simulation argument" that could help us understand specifically what your question is?

There is one issue that needs to be clarified: There is an important difference between the odds of a fair coin giving a particular exact sequence of heads and tails versus the believability, given particular sequence result, that the coin really was fair.
1) For a fair coin, the sequence of all heads is no less likely than any other exact sequence of heads and tails.
2) There are aspects of the all-heads sequence that are not at all like a random process. So as heads keeps coming up, it becomes certain that the coin is not fair.
3) Other exact sequences may prove that a coin is not fair. An infinitely long sequence of exactly alternating heads and tails is not from a fair coin.
4) On the other hand, there are randomly mixed heads/tails sequences that have exactly half heads that may be from a fair coin. As the coin tosses go on to infinity, the odds of exactly half being heads goes to zero, but 50/50 remains the most likely value. All heads (or all tails) are always the least likely.
 
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I didn't understand your question before. You are asking what the result of infinitely many flips of a coin will be?

If that is what you meant, then The Strong Law of Large Numbers says that the sample average will converge almost surely to the expectation. So if the coin is fair, an infinite sequence will have an average of 1/2 almost surely - with probability 1. Is that what you were asking?
 
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Related to What happens if you flip an infinite heads and tails coin?

1. What is an infinite heads and tails coin?

An infinite heads and tails coin is a hypothetical coin that has the ability to land on either heads or tails an infinite number of times. This means that no matter how many times you flip the coin, it will never run out of heads or tails and will continue to alternate between them.

2. Can an infinite heads and tails coin actually exist?

No, an infinite heads and tails coin is a concept that is not physically possible. In reality, a coin can only have two sides and can only land on one of those sides at a time. The concept of an infinite heads and tails coin is purely theoretical and cannot be replicated in the real world.

3. What happens if you flip an infinite heads and tails coin?

Since an infinite heads and tails coin is not possible, it is impossible to determine what would happen if it were actually flipped. However, if we were to consider the concept hypothetically, the coin would continue to alternate between heads and tails an infinite number of times without ever landing on one side more than the other.

4. Would there ever be a chance of getting the same result twice in a row with an infinite heads and tails coin?

No, with an infinite heads and tails coin, there would never be a chance of getting the same result twice in a row. This is because the coin would always alternate between heads and tails, never repeating the same result.

5. How does the concept of an infinite heads and tails coin relate to probability?

The concept of an infinite heads and tails coin is often used in discussions about probability and infinity. It highlights the idea that in an infinite number of trials, all possible outcomes will occur an infinite number of times. In this case, heads and tails will both occur an infinite number of times, making the probability of each outcome equal.

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