What distinguishes the neutrinos?

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In summary, the 3 neutrinos are distinguished experimentally by their interactions with charged leptons, with each type having different interactions. They were originally proposed to explain the conservation of electron and muon numbers, and the justification for introducing 3 neutrinos is based on the conservation of three different leptonic numbers. Further experimental evidence has shown that there are not more than 3 light neutrinos, and it has also been discovered that neutrinos have mass with the three types having different masses.
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What distinguishes the neutrinos?

Assuming Neutrinos are massless
What then distinguishes the 3 neutrinos experimentally.
WHy 3 neutrinos were proposed theoretically in the fisrt place?
Whats the justification behind introducing 3 neutrinos?

Plz don't say that because there are 6 quarks there was a need to have 6 leptons so introducing extra nuetrinos was an abvious choice
 
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EDIT2: Ok, I seemed to misunderstand your question slightly. I was just happy that someone was seemingly asking the same stupid questions as I do :P.
Experimental distinguishing: I faintly remember something about "inverse beta decay". More theoretically: A vertex with a charged lepton, a neutrino and a W boson must have the neutrino and the charged lepton to be of the same generation.
Why 3: Similarly as you get spin-up and spin-down as possible spin-adjustments, the SU(2) gauge group gives you +1/2 and -1/2 as "weak isospin" - for each generation. After electroweak symmetry breaking you end up with one of the two having a electromagnetic charge of 1 and the other having a charge of 0.

quantumfireball said:
Plz don't say that because there are 6 quarks there was a need to have 6 leptons so introducing extra nuetrinos was an abvious choice
No, it's actually because we have three charged leptons :biggrin:. Seriously, I have asked for an experimental evidence that the three neutrinos are really distinct particles some time ago (in a slightly different context, though). It turns out that the answer is given in the Wikipedia article about the Neutrino (even with a source):
Wikipedia said:
There are three known types (flavours) of neutrinos: electron neutrino νe, muon neutrino νμ and tau neutrino ντ, named after their partner leptons in the Standard Model (see table at right). The current best measurement of the number of neutrino types comes from observing the decay of the Z boson. This particle can decay into any light neutrino and its antineutrino, and the more types of light neutrinos available, the shorter the lifetime of the Z boson. Measurements of the Z lifetime have shown that the number of light neutrino types (with "light" meaning of less than half the Z mass) is 3.[1]
EDIT: Looking at it, it turns out the source is the PDG: http://pdg.lbl.gov/2005/listings/s007.ps
 
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quantumfireball said:
What then distinguishes the 3 neutrinos experimentally.

They have different interactions with the charged leptons.
Lederman and Steinberger won the nobel prize for having demonstrated experimentally that the neutrinos created together with a muon (in pion and kaon decays) are not able to interact with electrons (while it was already well know that neutrinos created together with an electron, as in usual beta decays, are able to interact with other electrons).
This was the first clear proof of the existence of at least two neutrino types, each associated with a charged lepton.
The experimental evidence cited by Timo arrived some 40 years later, and it was not anymore interesting from the point of view of your question (i.e. "how to know that there are more than one neutrino?") but from the opposite point of view: it demonstrated that there are not more than 3 (light) neutrinos.

quantumfireball said:
WHy 3 neutrinos were proposed theoretically in the fisrt place?

The original motivation was explaining why you never observe violations of the electron number and of the muon number.
For example, if there were only one type of neutrino, there would be Feynman diagrams with an intermediate neutrino permitting the existence of the decay [itex]\mu\to e\gamma[/itex].

quantumfireball said:
Whats the justification behind introducing 3 neutrinos?

The conservation of three different leptonic numbers.
 
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quantumfireball said:
WHy 3 neutrinos were proposed
Wasn't it because experiments only detected one third as many as originally expected?
 
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Assuming Neutrinos are massless

The fact is that neutrinos have mass nad the three types have different masses.
 
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Wasn't it because experiments only detected one third as many as originally expected?
no, that's a different business: this observation that you mention, only hinted at the possibility of oscillation (and since oscillation is possible only with different masses, this hinted at the possibility that at least one of the neutrino types is not massless). But I think that at the time there was already the knowledge that at least two neutrinos existed.
 
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##What then distinguishes the 3 neutrinos experimentally.##
What particles they have W boson interaction with differs. For example the [tex] \nu _e [/tex] couples more to electrons than muons, and [tex] \nu _{\mu } [/tex] couples more to muons than electrons. And so on.


##WHy 3 neutrinos were proposed theoretically in the fisrt place?##
What do you mean by "first place" ? If i remember my neutrino physics correct, the neutrino was introduced before any firm evidence of the existence of the muon, and not the tau-lepton either. But if you mean in the "foundation" of the standard model, you have got some answers to this.


##Whats the justification behind introducing 3 neutrinos?##
besides from the other answers; you also have limits from the width of the Z-boson decay and from the primordial He-abundance (He produced in BB).
 
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Related to What distinguishes the neutrinos?

1. What are neutrinos?

Neutrinos are subatomic particles that have no electric charge and very little mass. They are one of the fundamental particles that make up the universe.

2. How are neutrinos different from other particles?

Neutrinos are different from other particles because they have no electric charge and interact very weakly with matter, making them difficult to detect. They also have a very small mass compared to other particles.

3. What distinguishes neutrinos from other fundamental particles?

One of the key distinctions of neutrinos from other fundamental particles is their ability to change flavors. This means that a neutrino can transform into a different type of neutrino as it travels through space.

4. How are neutrinos detected?

Neutrinos are detected using specialized detectors that are designed to capture the interactions of neutrinos with other particles. These interactions produce tiny flashes of light or other particles that can be measured and analyzed.

5. What are the uses of studying neutrinos?

Studying neutrinos can help us understand the fundamental nature of the universe and its origins. They also play a crucial role in important astrophysical phenomena such as supernovae explosions. Additionally, research on neutrinos has practical applications in fields such as nuclear power and medical imaging.

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