Weight on a fulcrum style problem - Personal Interest

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving finding the maximum weight that can be placed on the edge of a glass sheet resting on top of a block. The solution involves considering the torque and balancing the clockwise and anti-clockwise moments. The pivot point is determined to be the left edge of the block.
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c4nc3r
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Just to preface, this isn't something that I've been given as homework, I'm not currently enrolled in any schooling, however as a matter of personal interest I wanted to work out the solution to the problem without a guess-check-improve method. I have an idea, and it seems too obvious to be true but still.

Homework Statement



I'm building a coffee table which will consist of a sheet of glass resting on top of the block of an engine (basically, a rectangular prism on its end). I want to find out the highest weight that can be put on the very edge of the table without the glass falling off. My basic MS Paint drawing is below, with the red arrow being the weight point.

Bench.jpg


I don't yet know the weight of the glass, as I'm unsure of the size of the sheet, I'm more interested in finding an equation to use when I do know all the variables.

Homework Equations



Not sure yet

The Attempt at a Solution



From the thinking I've been doing, it originally seemed to be simply a case of balancing the weight of the left and right hand sides, with the pivot point being the side of the block closest to the weight (see attached image)

Bench2.jpg


For example, the image below would be perfectly balanced and therefore wouldn't fall;

Bench3.jpg


But then the more I think about it the more that seems to be too simple a breakdown, as the further from the pivot point the weight is the more force it has. So that's where I'm stumped, which is frustrating as I know I should know the answer.

I'm not sure if my explanation has made sense to anyone, if you need clarification don't hesitate to ask, and likewise if this is in the wrong place then let me know and I'll do what I can to move it.

Thanks guys
Josh
 
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this is quite a simple problem involving torque.

assuming that the sheet of glass is uniform, the centre of gravity is at the centre of the glass sheet (to the right of the left edge of the block), and it will produce a clockwise moment about the pivot point.

moment = force x perpendicular distance to pivot.

in order to balance out the moment, the anti-clockwise moment produced by the weight must be equal to that generated by the weight of the glass sheet acting on its centre of mass.
 
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But as the block in the center is solid, wouldn't that mean that is the center of the rotation? Or am I missing something in your explanation?
 
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c4nc3r said:
But as the block in the center is solid, wouldn't that mean that is the center of the rotation? Or am I missing something in your explanation?

Actually i meant that the pivot point is the left edge of the block, not the center of it.
 
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I'm sorry, it was kinda late at night when I posted that message [ which I deleted ], and I didn't realize what we're talking about here.

Anyways, yes, the pivot point is the left edge of the center block because that's where the glass rotates.
 

Related to Weight on a fulcrum style problem - Personal Interest

1. What is a fulcrum?

A fulcrum is a pivot point or support on which a lever balances and turns.

2. How does a fulcrum affect weight distribution?

The position of the fulcrum can affect the distribution of weight on a lever. Placing the fulcrum closer to the heavier object will result in a smaller amount of force needed to lift the object, while placing it closer to the lighter object will require more force to lift the heavier object.

3. What is the relationship between the weight on each side of a fulcrum?

The weight on each side of a fulcrum is inversely proportional to its distance from the fulcrum. This means that the heavier object will need to be closer to the fulcrum to balance out the lighter object that is further away.

4. How do you calculate the weight on a fulcrum?

To calculate the weight on a fulcrum, you need to know the weight and distance of each object on the lever. The formula is W1 x D1 = W2 x D2, where W1 is the weight of the first object, D1 is the distance from the fulcrum to the first object, W2 is the weight of the second object, and D2 is the distance from the fulcrum to the second object.

5. What is the principle behind a balanced fulcrum?

The principle behind a balanced fulcrum is the law of equal and opposite forces. This means that the weight on one side of the fulcrum must be balanced by an equal weight on the other side in order to achieve equilibrium.

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