Wave equation boundary conditions at infinity

In summary, there are general boundary conditions for the wave equation at infinity, but selection of these conditions is dependent on the problem at hand.
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nkinar
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Are there general boundary conditions for the wave equation PDE at infinity? If there is, could someone suggest a book/monograph that deals with these boundary conditions?

More specifically, if we have the following wave equation:

[tex]
\[
\nabla ^2 p = A\frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }} + B\frac{{\partial p}}{{\partial t}}
\]
[/tex]

how would I select boundary conditions at infinity to ensure that the wave will continue to propagate approaching infinity?
 
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nkinar said:
Are there general boundary conditions for the wave equation PDE at infinity? If there is, could someone suggest a book/monograph that deals with these boundary conditions?

More specifically, if we have the following wave equation:

[tex]
\[
\nabla ^2 p = A\frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }} + B\frac{{\partial p}}{{\partial t}}
\]
[/tex]

how would I select boundary conditions at infinity to ensure that the wave will continue to propagate approaching infinity?

Often with guided waves, the field and the gradient of the field go to zero at infinity. This results in waves that do not lose energy as a radiation field.

Offhand, I don't know a good general book, but optics and electromagnetic books often deal with guided wave propagating modes For example, I remember reading a book "Light Transmission Optics" by D. Marcuse, years ago.
 
  • #3
stevenb: Thank you for your response! So I think that this would imply that:

[tex]
\[
{\bf{p}} = 0
\]
[/tex]

[tex]
\[
\nabla {\bf{p}} = 0
\]
[/tex]

Does this also apply to waves in free-field conditions? What about acoustic waves?
 
  • #4
Might this also imply the following at infinity?

[tex]
\[
\frac{{\partial p}}{{\partial t}} = 0
\]
[/tex]

What about

[tex]
\[
\frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }} = 0
\]
[/tex]
 
  • #5
If the field and the gradient of the field go to zero as we approach infinity, then would it be reasonable to suggest that

[tex]
\[
0 = A\frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }} + B\frac{{\partial p}}{{\partial t}}
\]
[/tex]
 
  • #6
stevenb said:
Often with guided waves, the field and the gradient of the field go to zero at infinity. This results in waves that do not lose energy as a radiation field.

Offhand, I don't know a good general book, but optics and electromagnetic books often deal with guided wave propagating modes For example, I remember reading a book "Light Transmission Optics" by D. Marcuse, years ago.

Most often though requiring uniqueness to the solution imposes infinite boundary conditions. The Sommerfeld radiation condition in electromagnetics dictates that at infinity the point source field must go to zero for the uniqueness of the solution to hold. This is different for an appropriately confined wave as you stated.

nkinar said:
If the field and the gradient of the field go to zero as we approach infinity, then would it be reasonable to suggest that

[tex]
\[
0 = A\frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }} + B\frac{{\partial p}}{{\partial t}}
\]
[/tex]

I think you need to take into more consideration the physics of the problem. First, I don't think it is very useful to arrange a PDE of the limiting behavior. Rather, it would probably be more useful to first solve the original PDE and then apply the boundary conditions to the solution. For example, many general wave equations will afford solutions that represent both incoming and outgoing waves. However, appropriate boundary conditions would require you to reject the incoming waves for example. This is something that you would apply after you have derived your general solution. Without knowing what this wave equation is and how it should behave, I would guess that the only thing you can set boundary conditions for is uniqueness as I mentioned above.

Chew's "Waves and Fields in Inhomogeneous Media" discusses solving wave equations for electromagnetics and addresses such topics in his first chapter, specifically 1.5 and he also talks about deriving the boundary conditions at a 1D planar inhomogeneity in 2.1. While these are specific to electromagnetics, he works directly from the PDE and uses mathematical arguments to derive these boundary conditions and solutions. So the techniques should be useful learning tools even for wave equations of different phenomenon.
 
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Born2bwire said:
Most often though requiring uniqueness to the solution imposes infinite boundary conditions. The Sommerfeld radiation condition in electromagnetics dictates that at infinity the point source field must go to zero for the uniqueness of the solution to hold. This is different for an appropriately confined wave as you stated.

.

Yes, very good point. I first interpreted his question to mean "guided solutions" because of his statement "how would I select boundary conditions at infinity to ensure that the wave will continue to propagate approaching infinity?". However, rereading this and considering the follow on questions, I'm not now sure if this interpretation is correct.

Marcuse's book does a good job of discussing radiation solutions as well. It's an old book, but it's a classic. I highly recommend it to the OP if he understands electromagnetics well enough.
 
  • #8
stevenb and Born2bwire: These are extremely good comments, and I will take a look at these books that have been suggested. Thank you very much for helping to point me in the right direction!
 

Related to Wave equation boundary conditions at infinity

1. What is the wave equation and how does it relate to boundary conditions at infinity?

The wave equation is a mathematical equation that describes the behavior of waves. It relates to boundary conditions at infinity because it helps us understand how waves behave and interact with boundaries that extend infinitely in all directions.

2. Why are boundary conditions at infinity important in studying wave equations?

Boundary conditions at infinity are important because they allow us to make accurate predictions and calculations about wave behavior in unbounded regions. They also help us understand how waves interact with objects or boundaries that are located far away from the source of the wave.

3. How do we apply boundary conditions at infinity to solve wave equations?

To apply boundary conditions at infinity, we typically use a technique called the method of images. This involves creating a mirror image of the original wave source and considering its effect on the wave behavior. By incorporating this image into our calculations, we can accurately account for the infinite boundary conditions.

4. Can boundary conditions at infinity be simplified or ignored in wave equation solutions?

No, boundary conditions at infinity cannot be simplified or ignored in wave equation solutions. They are essential for accurately modeling wave behavior in unbounded regions and ignoring them can lead to incorrect predictions and calculations.

5. How do boundary conditions at infinity differ from other types of boundary conditions?

Boundary conditions at infinity differ from other types of boundary conditions in that they apply to boundaries that extend infinitely in all directions. Other types of boundary conditions, such as fixed or free boundaries, are usually defined at a specific point or distance from the wave source.

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