Vertical Displacement of Particle on Spring: k,m and x in Equations

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of potential and kinetic energy in a particle on a spring system, and how gravitational potential energy is not included in the equations due to equilibrium conditions. The discussion also touches on the meaning of the constant \frac{1}{2}k\delta ^2 and how it disappears after differentiating the energy equation.
  • #1
Gregg
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Need to show that the vertical displacement of a particle on a spring is

[tex] \ddot{x} + 100x = 0 [/tex]

[tex] \frac{1}{2}kx^2 + \frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2=C [/tex]

[tex] k\dot{x}x + m\dot{x}\ddot{x}=0[/tex]


Then since m=0.4, k=40.

[tex] \ddot{x}+100x=0 [/tex]

what has happened to gravitational potential energy? why isn't it included in the potential and kinetic energy?
 
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  • #2
Well you see if you include it, it will cancel out due to equilibrium conditions

[tex]\frac{1}{2}k(x+\delta)^2 -mgx + \frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2 = C[/tex]


At equilibrium kδ=mg or kδ-mg = 0
 
  • #3
rock.freak667 said:
Well you see if you include it, it will cancel out due to equilibrium conditions

[tex]\frac{1}{2}k(x+\delta)^2 -mgx + \frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2 = C[/tex]


At equilibrium kδ=mg or kδ-mg = 0


ah i see how it vanishes now. but does
[tex] \frac{1}{2}k\delta ^2 [/tex]
mean anything? does it disappear?


it does because its a constant right?
 
  • #4
Gregg said:
ah i see how it vanishes now. but does
[tex] \frac{1}{2}k\delta ^2 [/tex]
mean anything? does it disappear?


it does because its a constant right?

Remember that when you have a spring and then you suspend a mass from it, there will be an initial displacement. δ is this displacement such that when you displace the mass a distance 'x', the spring extends by 'δ+x'

Also it disappears after you differentiate the energy equation.
 
  • #5


The equations provided show the relationship between the vertical displacement (x) of a particle on a spring and the forces acting on it, specifically the spring constant (k) and the mass (m). The first equation, \ddot{x} + 100x = 0, is the equation of motion for the particle, where the acceleration (\ddot{x}) is equal to the negative of the displacement (x) multiplied by the spring constant (100). This equation shows that the particle will oscillate up and down on the spring with a period determined by the spring constant and the mass.

The second equation, \frac{1}{2}kx^2 + \frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2=C, represents the conservation of energy for the particle. The left side of the equation represents the total energy of the system, which is the sum of the potential energy stored in the spring (\frac{1}{2}kx^2) and the kinetic energy of the particle (\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2). The right side of the equation, represented by the constant C, shows that the total energy remains constant throughout the motion.

The third equation, k\dot{x}x + m\dot{x}\ddot{x}=0, is a useful relationship that can be derived from the first two equations. It shows that the work done by the forces (kx and m\ddot{x}) is equal to zero, meaning that the forces are conservative. This is a result of the potential energy being solely dependent on the displacement and not on the velocity of the particle.

As for the question about gravitational potential energy, it is not included in these equations because they are specifically for a particle on a spring. In this system, the only forces acting on the particle are the spring force and the force of gravity is negligible. If we were to consider a more complex system where the particle is affected by gravity, then the equations would need to be modified to include gravitational potential energy. However, in this case, it is not necessary to include it as it does not significantly affect the motion of the particle on the spring.
 

Related to Vertical Displacement of Particle on Spring: k,m and x in Equations

What is the equation for calculating the vertical displacement of a particle on a spring?

The equation is x = A*sin(ωt + φ), where x is the vertical displacement, A is the amplitude, ω is the angular frequency, and φ is the phase angle.

How does the spring constant (k) affect the vertical displacement of the particle?

The spring constant, k, is a measure of the stiffness of the spring. A higher value of k means the spring is stiffer, and therefore the vertical displacement will be larger for a given force applied to the spring.

What is the significance of the mass (m) in the equation for vertical displacement?

The mass, m, represents the mass of the particle attached to the spring. It affects the period of oscillation, with a higher mass resulting in a longer period and a lower mass resulting in a shorter period.

How does the initial displacement (x0) affect the vertical displacement of the particle?

The initial displacement, x0, represents the starting position of the particle on the spring. It affects the phase angle, φ, in the equation. A larger initial displacement will result in a larger phase angle, and therefore a larger vertical displacement over time.

What is the relationship between the frequency and the angular frequency in the equation for vertical displacement?

The frequency, f, and the angular frequency, ω, are related by the equation f = ω/2π. This means that the frequency is equal to the angular frequency divided by 2π. In other words, the frequency is the number of oscillations per unit of time, while the angular frequency is the number of radians per unit of time.

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