# [SOLVED]Vector-valued function representing velocity, acceleration,force, momentum etc.

#### Dhamnekar Winod

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Let r(t) be the position vector for a particle moving in $\mathbb{R^3}.$ How to show that
$$\frac{d}{dt}(r \times (v\times r))=||r||^2 *a+ (r\cdot v)*v-(||v||^2+ r\cdot a)*r \tag{1}$$

Where r(t) is a position vector (x(t),y(t),z(t)), $v(t)=\frac{dr}{dt}=(x'(t),y'(t),z'(t)), a(t)=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{d^2r}{dt^2}=(x''(t),y''(t),z''(t))$ Note: v=velocity, a= acceleration

My attempt:-
I know $\frac{d}{dt}(f\times g)=\frac{df}{dt}\times g +f\times \frac{dg}{dt}$. I also know for any vectors u, v, w in $\mathbb{R^3}, u\times (v\times w)=(u\cdot w)*v-(u\cdot v)*w$

But I don't understand how to use these formulas to prove equation (1)?

#### GJA

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MHB Math Scholar
Hi Dhamnekar,

You're correct that those two formulas need to be used, nicely done. I will start the computation below. See if you can finish it. If not, I'm happy to answer any other questions you may have. Note: I will use the dot notation to denote a derivative with respect to time.

\begin{align*}

\frac{d}{dt}(r\times (v\times r)) &= \dot{r}\times (v\times r) + r\times \dot{(v\times r)}\\
& = v\times (v\times r) + r\times (\dot{v}\times r + v\times\dot{r})\\
& = v\times (v\times r) + r\times (a\times r + v\times v)

\end{align*}

Can you proceed from here? Hint: $x\cdot x = \| x\|^{2}.$

#### topsquark

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MHB Math Helper
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Let r(t) be the position vector for a particle moving in $\mathbb{R^3}.$ How to show that
$$\frac{d}{dt}(r \times (v\times r))=||r||^2 *a+ (r\cdot v)*v-(||v||^2+ r\cdot a)*r \tag{1}$$

Where r(t) is a position vector (x(t),y(t),z(t)), $v(t)=\frac{dr}{dt}=(x'(t),y'(t),z'(t)), a(t)=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{d^2r}{dt^2}=(x''(t),y''(t),z''(t))$ Note: v=velocity, a= acceleration

My attempt:-
I know $\frac{d}{dt}(f\times g)=\frac{df}{dt}\times g +f\times \frac{dg}{dt}$. I also know for any vectors u, v, w in $\mathbb{R^3}, u\times (v\times w)=(u\cdot w)*v-(u\cdot v)*w$

But I don't understand how to use these formulas to prove equation (1)?

Is this a part of a derivation? The $$\displaystyle \textbf{r} \times ( \textbf{v} \times \textbf{r} )$$ looks familiar but I can't seem to find it.