Using Stokes' Theorem to Show F(r) is Conservative

In summary, The conversation discusses using Stokes's theorem to show that F(r) is conservative as long as nabla X F equals 0. It is also mentioned that curl F can also be written as rot F or \nabla \times F. The conversation suggests proving either the independence of path or that F(r) can be written as the gradient of a function to show that F(r) is conservative. A hint is given that independence of path is equivalent to \oint F \cdot dr = 0 for any closed path.
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Hi I've got this question that I've been stuck on a while now.. I am sure its really obvious but i can't see to get it:
Q: with the help of stokes's theorem, show that F(r) is conservative provided that nabla X F = 0.
nabla X F is the same as curl F?
Cheers.
 
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[itex]curl F[/itex] is sometimes written as [itex]rot F[/itex] or [itex]\nabla \times F[/itex]. It's the same thing.

You either have to show that [itex]\int F \cdot dr[/itex] is independent of path,
or that F(r) can be written as the gradient of a function. (Depending on your definition).

Hint: Independance of path is the same is [itex]\oint F \cdot dr=0[/itex] for any closed path.
 
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Hi there,

Yes, you are correct that nabla X F is the same as the curl of F. Stokes' Theorem states that for a vector field F and a surface S bounded by a curve C, the line integral of F along C is equal to the surface integral of the curl of F over S.

In other words, if we have a closed curve C bounding a surface S, then the line integral of F along C is equal to the surface integral of the curl of F over S. Mathematically, this can be written as:

∮C F(r) · dr = ∬S (curl F) · dS

Now, if we assume that nabla X F = 0, then this means that the curl of F is equal to zero. This implies that the surface integral of the curl of F over S is equal to zero. Therefore, using Stokes' Theorem, we can rewrite the equation as:

∮C F(r) · dr = 0

Since this holds for any closed curve C, we can conclude that the line integral of F along any closed curve is equal to zero. This is one of the conditions for a vector field to be conservative, as it means that the work done by the field is independent of the path taken. Therefore, we can say that F(r) is conservative.

I hope this helps clarify how you can use Stokes' Theorem to show that a vector field is conservative. Let me know if you have any other questions. Best of luck!
 

Related to Using Stokes' Theorem to Show F(r) is Conservative

1. How does Stokes' Theorem prove that F(r) is conservative?

Stokes' Theorem states that the line integral of a vector field F along a closed curve C is equal to the surface integral of the curl of F over the surface enclosed by C. If the curl of F is equal to zero, then the line integral and surface integral will also be equal to zero, indicating that the vector field is conservative.

2. What is the relationship between the curl of a vector field and its conservative nature?

The curl of a vector field measures the tendency of the field to rotate around a point. If the curl is equal to zero, it means that the field is not rotating and is therefore conservative. This is because a conservative vector field has a potential function, which means that the change in the field's value only depends on the endpoints of the path and not the path itself.

3. Can Stokes' Theorem be used to show that any vector field is conservative?

No, Stokes' Theorem can only be used to show that a vector field is conservative if the curl of the field is equal to zero. If the curl is not equal to zero, then the line integral and surface integral will not be equal and the vector field is not conservative.

4. How can Stokes' Theorem be applied in real-world situations?

Stokes' Theorem is commonly used in physics and engineering to calculate the work done by a force or the flow of a fluid. It can also be used to determine the circulation of a fluid around a closed path, which is useful in studying weather patterns and fluid dynamics.

5. Are there any limitations to using Stokes' Theorem to prove the conservative nature of a vector field?

Yes, there are limitations to using Stokes' Theorem. It can only be applied to vector fields in three-dimensional space, and the surface enclosed by the closed curve must be smooth and simple. Additionally, the vector field must have continuous partial derivatives in order for the curl to exist and for the theorem to be applicable.

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