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So at the risk of being redundant and fanning a flame that has burned since ever, I ask you this: Is the or is ther not a higher power? Once replies are posted, I will express my views.
Originally posted by TheDream
I think that God... is a word with three letters.
Am I right? Is that a truth... Yeah... I think it is.
Originally posted by SmarterThanGod
Haha that is brilliant.
As to my beliefs, I personally do not believe in any sort of higher power. though some say that the universe could not exist without an uncaused first cause, I believe that there are no uncaused events, just unknown events. And please, TheDream, answer my question with intelligence next time. Though it be amusing, I am interested to hear everyone's opinion.
Originally posted by himanshu121
If u exist why can't GOD exist. Have u ever wondered why there is living beings.
Originally posted by himanshu121
If u exist why can't GOD exist.
There are those that accept it because of their trust of those who told them GOD existed. (Authority)
And there are those who do not accept GOD's existence, simply because they've seen no evidence to accept that existence as actual. (Lack of the Evidential)
Originally posted by SmarterThanGod
So at the risk of being redundant and fanning a flame that has burned since ever, I ask you this: Is the or is ther not a higher power? Once replies are posted, I will express my views.
The big answer: No.The big question: GOD
There are some uncaused events, the one that immediately comes to mind is radioactive decay.Originally posted by SmarterThanGod
Haha that is brilliant.
As to my beliefs, I personally do not believe in any sort of higher power. though some say that the universe could not exist without an uncaused first cause, I believe that there are no uncaused events, just unknown events.
There are a few prerequisites for things to exist:Originally posted by himanshu121
If u exist why can't GOD exist. Have u ever wondered why there is living beings. Let us first question Which is visible rather than invisible. GOD is in everyone ,u have to realize them. I u know deeply that u exist than GOD do exists
Originally posted by himanshu121
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Accept God as Supreme
TIRTHA GOSWAMI
I once invited the Nobel prize-winning scientist C V Raman to preside over a function on the occasion of Sri Krishna Janmashtami at Sri Gaudiya Math, Bagh Bazar, Calcutta . The scientist declined the invitation on the ground that Krishna was fictitious and he had got no intention of wasting valuable time on such functions.
Dr Raman said that if I could reveal Krishna to him, he would go to attend the function, as he did not believe in something that could not be comprehended by observation and experiment. Behind the northern portion of his laboratory was North Calcutta . I asked him: “I am unable to see anything beyond this wall. If I say there is nothing outside this wall, will it be correct?” Dr Raman said, “I can see through my instruments.”
When I pointed out that there is a limit to the power of instruments for you can see only as far as your instruments allow you to see, Dr Raman said: “I will not give my attention to anything that is not within my sense-experience. Can you show me your God?” I said: “If your students say to you, they will study your scientific findings only if you make them realized first, then what would you say?” Dr Raman said, “No, they are to take my process through which I have realized the truth.” I said, “If this is true for you and your scientific knowledge, can the seers of ancient India not say exactly the same thing? Why not follow their process and see whether you experience God’s existence or not.”
There is only sun in the sky which, for all intents and purposes, represents the one God. However, just as the sun affects each and everyone of us a little differently (the example fits better with the plant and animal kingdom), then it could be said we each have our own unique interpretation of the sun, in which case you can have as many gods as you like.Originally posted by Yahweh
If you accept one (or more) god(s), what reason would you have to reject all other possible gods (and those yet to be concieved).
A personal Philosophy of mine on the subject of belief in god(s):
"By accepting the existence of one god when you don't accept the others, you'd be making it very hard for me not call you a hypocrite."
Unfortunately, very few people would find your reasoning entirely consistant.Originally posted by Iacchus32
There is only sun in the sky which, for all intents and purposes, represents the one God. However, just as the sun affects each and everyone of us a little differently (the example fits better with the plant and animal kingdom), then it could be said we each have our own unique interpretation of the sun, in which case you can have as many gods as you like.
The acceptance of Yahweh for example, who states in the first commandment, "Thou shalt have no gods before me," pretty much alludes to the same idea.
"A rose by any other name is but a rose?"
Actually your preponderance to knit-pick suggests to me that you don't have the ability to stand back and take a look at the overall picture. Which is to say, you can't separate the forest from the trees. This by the way, is what I think the difference is between the "scientific approach" and that which is more "holistically based."Originally posted by Yahweh
Unfortunately, very few people would find your reasoning entirely consistant.
Is your god the Christian God?
Is your god a Greek God?
Those are two very opposing figures, and unfortunately the way the two gods are defined does not allow them to be synonymous with one another. The Christian God and Greek Gods are inherently mutually exclusive.
And if all gods are essentially parts of one Supreme God, why is it the Christian God, and not say a separate hypothetical God.
Which of these do you best associate yourself with:
Well, granted you are under no obligation to answer my questions, and I do respect that.Originally posted by Iacchus32
Actually your preponderance to knit-pick suggests to me that you don't have the ability to stand back and take a look at the overall picture. Which is to say, you can't separate the forest from the trees. This by the way, is what I think the difference is between the "scientific approach" and that which is more "holistically based."
Thanks.Originally posted by Yahweh
Well, granted you are under no obligation to answer my questions, and I do respect that.
Acutally I believe in one God in essence, which comes in the form of many, because He affects each one of us differently.I do see things as an overall picture (the totality of all things which exist objectively make up reality), I could reasonably argue that you would be unable to differenciate between the forest and the trees if you were not a Panentheist, but I wouldn't go that route (no need to nit-pick that much).
Getting a little bit more personal here and I'm not sure I'm prepared to subject myself to so much scrutiny and get "torn to pieces" so to speak. However, it does coincide with the myth, and if you're interested I suggest following the link to my book below. I recommend reading chapter 5 which, is the main account, as well as chapter 9, which gives some insight into the depth of detail involved.However, I would like to know what it is that makes what I see so different than what you see. What is it that you have discovered that you know there exists a god?
The existence of God is a matter of belief and faith, rather than scientific proof. Different people have different beliefs and experiences that lead them to believe in a higher power. Some may see evidence of God in the complexity and beauty of the natural world, while others may find comfort in personal experiences or religious teachings.
Yes, science and religion can coexist. While science is based on empirical evidence and the scientific method, religion is based on faith and beliefs. Both provide different perspectives on the world and can complement each other in understanding the universe. Many scientists also have religious beliefs and see no conflict between the two.
This is a difficult question and has been debated for centuries. Some religious beliefs state that suffering and evil are a result of human free will and the consequences of our actions. Others believe that it is part of a larger plan or test from God. Ultimately, the answer to this question may be a matter of personal beliefs and interpretations.
Different religions have different beliefs about God and the nature of a higher power. Some believe in a single all-powerful deity, while others believe in multiple gods or a pantheon of deities. Some religions also have different beliefs about the nature of God, whether it is personal or impersonal, and the role of humans in relation to God.
While there have been reported cases of miracles and divine intervention, there is no scientific evidence to support these claims. Many scientists argue that these events can be explained by natural and scientific phenomena, and that the concept of miracles goes against the laws of physics. However, for those who believe in the power of God, these events may be seen as evidence of a higher power's existence.