Unravelling Kepler's Law: How F = m/r^2 is Reached

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the gravitational force of the sun and the orbital period of a planet, as described by Kepler's Third Law. This relationship can be represented by the equation F = m/r^2, which is obtained from the equation F = (4)(pi)^2(m)(r)/T^2 by substituting T for r. The presence of the constants 4 and pi^2 in the original equation is not relevant, as the law only gives a proportionality between r^3 and T^2.
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what is it exactly?

and in my book they had an equation

F = (4)(pi)^2(m)(r)/T^2

then they said by using keplers law... they arrived to a new equation that relates the gravitational force exerted by the sun which is...
F = m/r^2

If Keplers law says T = r^3/2 how in the heck did they go from F = (4)(pi)^2(m)(r)/T^2
to F = m/r^2 by substituting T for r?
Where did (4)(pi)^2(r) go ?
 
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It would appear that they started with the centripetal force:
[tex] F = m\frac{v^2}{r}~~~~~\text{where:}~~~~v = \frac{2 \pi r}{T}[/tex]
[tex] F = \frac{4 \pi^2 m r}{T^2}[/tex]
Now, Kepler's Third Law states that the square of the orbital period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. For a circular orbit we identify the semi-major axis with the orbital radius. Note that the law as stated does not give us the constant of proportionality, so we write: [itex] r^3 \propto T^2[/itex]. So we can replace the T2 in the force equation with r3 but without a precise constant of proportionality it doesn't make sense to retain the others, so that:
[tex] F \propto \frac{4 \pi^2 m r}{r^3} \propto \frac{m}{r^2}[/tex]
 
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For different planets, Kepler's third Law says (R^3)/(T^2) = constant
and equals unity when using units of years and astronomical units (A.U.).
 
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Ok so I see that I r will divide out and it will equal 4(pi)^2m/r^2... where did the 4 pi^2 go?
 
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Kepler's Law states that the square of the orbital period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of its average distance from the sun. Mathematically, this can be expressed as T^2 ∝ r^3.

In the first equation, F = (4)(pi)^2(m)(r)/T^2, the term (4)(pi)^2(r) is simply a constant that represents the universal gravitational constant, G, and the orbital period, T.

By substituting T for r in the equation, we can rearrange it to get F = m/r^2, which is the familiar form of Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. This equation shows that the force of gravity between two objects is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

So, in essence, by using Kepler's Law and substituting T for r, we are able to derive Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, which is a fundamental equation in physics that explains the force of gravity between objects.
 

Related to Unravelling Kepler's Law: How F = m/r^2 is Reached

1. What are Kepler's Laws?

Kepler's Laws are a set of three laws that describe the motion of planets around the sun. They were developed by the German astronomer Johannes Kepler in the early 17th century.

2. What is the significance of F = m/r^2 in Kepler's Laws?

F = m/r^2, also known as the inverse square law, is a fundamental principle in physics that explains the relationship between the force of gravity, the mass of an object, and the distance between them. It is important in Kepler's Laws because it helps to explain the elliptical orbits of planets around the sun.

3. How did Kepler first come up with his laws?

Kepler's Laws were developed through years of observation and mathematical calculations. He studied the works of his predecessors, including Copernicus and Tycho Brahe, and used their data to develop his laws. He also made extensive use of geometry and trigonometry in his calculations.

4. What is the role of mathematics in understanding Kepler's Laws?

Mathematics plays a crucial role in understanding Kepler's Laws. Through mathematical equations, Kepler was able to demonstrate the relationship between the motion of planets and the force of gravity. Without mathematics, it would have been nearly impossible to accurately describe and predict the motion of planets.

5. How do Kepler's Laws impact our understanding of the universe?

Kepler's Laws have had a significant impact on our understanding of the universe. They helped to solidify the heliocentric model of the solar system, which states that the sun is at the center and the planets orbit around it. They also laid the foundation for Isaac Newton's theory of gravity and his famous laws of motion. Today, Kepler's Laws continue to be used in the study of planetary motion and have contributed to advancements in space exploration and astronomy.

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