Understanding Time Dilation: A Confusing Experiment Explained

In summary: So the light beam from the laser pointer should stay with the plane even as the plane moves.In summary, the photon travels in a triangular path when fired from a stationary light clock, but travels in a straight path when fired from a moving light clock.
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I've seen an experiment with a light clock that explains time dilation. A photon is fired and gets reflected off of 2 parallel mirrors. It keeps bouncing back and forth like that, with each bounce qualifying as one tick of the clock. And it looks like that from a stationary reference frame. Now if the clock is moving to the right at some highs speed relative to us, the photon would need to travel in a triangular path. Therefor it takes longer for the clock to tick considering that the speed of light or a photon is constant and equal "c" for all reference frames. I'm sure you all know what the diagram of this experiment looks like: http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys200/lectures/dilation/red_time_a.gif


Now here's what I don't understand. Imagine the same scenario, now with a person in the same reference frame as the clock inside a space ship. So now we have that person and our light clock moving to the right at some high speed. The person looks at the clock, a photon is fired straight up from the bottom mirror to the top mirror so it's just bouncing back and forth infinitely. When we look at the photon being fired, wouldn't the photon just travel straight up and down a few times (non triangular path) and then just slam into the back of the spaceship (because the spaceship is moving towards it). That's what I don't understand. Because from what I've read, the photon is moving to the right with the entire space ship. How does it get that velocity to the right when the speed of electromagnetic waves is not dependant of the speed of the source. Why wouldn't the photon slam into the back of the spaceship?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Imagine you are in an almost empty 747 airplane, seats removed, flying at a high and constant velocity and without any turbulence.

Could you bounce a basketball?
Or play table tennis?

Would the ball slam into the back of the plane or would it simply come straight up?
Or when you use the water faucet does the water crash against the wall instead of going straight down?
 
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So does that mean that inertia applies to photons also?
 
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chocolatesheep said:
So does that mean that inertia applies to photons also?
What would happen when you shine a laser pointer to the roof of the plane, does the light beam curve or does it go straight up?
 
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There is a recurring confusion about this, usually from reading Einstein translated from the German, or from other sources that don't clear the distinction carefully. The translations use the word "velocity" for the German word meaning simply "speed". But velocity includes direction...

So, when you read that the "velocity" of light is independent from the source motion, one may think this includes both speed and direction, and then it does seem to suggest that the light shouldn't "carry long" with a moving source because of the light's direction (the direction being at right angle for the local observer with the clock, but if also at right angle from the perspective of an observer at rest, that observer would expect the light to be left behind the advancing mirrors and hit the spacecraft wall).

But only light's speed is independent of the source motion, not its velocity (not the direction component).
 

Related to Understanding Time Dilation: A Confusing Experiment Explained

1. How does time dilation occur?

Time dilation occurs when an object is moving at high speeds or in a strong gravitational field. The faster an object moves or the closer it is to a large mass, the slower time will pass for that object compared to a stationary observer.

2. What is the theory behind time dilation?

The theory behind time dilation is Einstein's theory of relativity. This theory states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This means that time can appear to pass differently for different observers, depending on their relative speed and gravitational forces.

3. How is time dilation measured?

Time dilation can be measured using precise clocks that are synchronized and placed on moving objects or in different gravitational fields. By comparing the time measurements of these clocks, the amount of time dilation can be calculated.

4. What are some real-world examples of time dilation?

One famous example of time dilation is the Hafele-Keating experiment in 1971, where atomic clocks were flown around the world on commercial airplanes. The clocks on the airplanes were found to be slightly behind the clocks on the ground, demonstrating the effect of time dilation due to the high speeds of the planes. Another example is the time dilation experienced by astronauts in space due to their high velocities and the weaker gravitational forces in orbit.

5. How does time dilation affect our daily lives?

While the effects of time dilation may seem insignificant in our daily lives, it is actually a crucial factor to consider in areas such as GPS technology and satellite communication. The clocks on satellites in orbit must be adjusted for time dilation in order to accurately communicate with Earth-based devices. Additionally, the accuracy of GPS technology relies on precise time measurements, which can be affected by time dilation.

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