Two standing waves forming a traveling wave

In summary, the conversation discusses the creation and properties of standing waves, which are formed by two identical sinusoidal waves propagating in opposite directions with the same phase. It is noted that the relative phase of the two waves does not affect the formation of a standing wave. The conversation also touches on the possibility of summing two standing waves to create a propagating wave, which may occur if the standing waves have different amplitudes. The concept of a mixed wave is introduced, which is defined as a wave phenomenon that exhibits both traveling and standing wave characteristics.
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fisico30
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Hello Forum,

it is well know that the sum of two identical sinusoidal waves propagating in opposite direction, with zero relative phase, create a standing wave:

Phi1(x,t)=sin(kx+wt+theta1)
Phi2(x,t)=sin(kx-wt+theta2)

with theta1=theta2, w1=w2 (same angular frequency).

Phi_tot=Phi1+Phi2=standing wave where the space and time part are separate:

Q1: what if the two wave don't have identical phase, i.e. theta1 not equal to theta2?

I read somewhere that it is possible to sum two standing waves and get a propagating wave...How? Do the two standing waves need to have different amplitudes or different relative phase?

thanks
fisico30
 
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It doesn't matter if the phases are the same or different.

You should be aboe to can see this is true physically. You could measure the time starting at a different instant, when both phases were the same.

Or, do the math and expand out all the trig functions.

Q2. If the amplitudes are different, the resultant will be a traveling wave moving in the direction with the greatest amplitude. Again, the phases are not important.
 
  • #3
AlephZero,

thanks for the reply.
I am going to run a simulation, but as far as Q1, the two identical wave going in opposite direction, I feel like they must have the same phase because they must be always in phase opposition at certain points (the nodes) and in same phase at the antinodes...

By the way, what is a mixed wave, defined as part traveling part standing?

A pure traveling wave describes energy that moves.
A pure standing wave describes a wave that is stationary; energy is stored in place;

What does a mixed wave describe? What type of wave phenomenon?


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fisico30
 

What is a standing wave?

A standing wave is a pattern of vibration that occurs when two waves of the same frequency and amplitude travel in opposite directions and interfere with each other. This results in points along the medium where the amplitude of the wave remains constant, while others experience no displacement.

How are two standing waves formed?

Two standing waves are formed when two identical waves traveling in opposite directions interfere with each other in a medium. The points where the waves interfere constructively result in a standing wave pattern.

What is a traveling wave?

A traveling wave is a type of wave that transfers energy through a medium by causing particles in the medium to vibrate. Unlike standing waves, traveling waves move in one direction and do not interfere with each other.

How does a traveling wave form from two standing waves?

When two standing waves with the same frequency and amplitude travel in opposite directions, the points where they interfere constructively create a pattern of nodes and antinodes. As the waves continue to interfere, these nodes and antinodes move through the medium, creating the appearance of a wave traveling through it.

What are some real-world applications of two standing waves forming a traveling wave?

Some real-world applications of this phenomenon include musical instruments, such as string or wind instruments, where standing waves are used to produce different notes and pitches. Standing waves are also used in medical imaging techniques, such as ultrasound, to produce images of internal body structures.

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