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Mordred
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I would like to endeaver to calculate what the force of gravity would be on a mass encompassing the total mass and energy. Some articles refer to a "god particle" I personally prefer to simply call it the orginal mass/energy particle. assuming that at the very beginning before this particle that conatains all matter, forces and energy was that one infitismal point.
then assume gravity splits from this original particle. from some super singularity. I would assume that this has been attempted before so if anyone has links or current theories that describes the material origins of the big bang please post.
I am trying to decide which makes more sense the theory of this super particle or the theory that matter derived from virtual particles that pop in and out of existence due to the Heisenburg uncertainty principle and described in some regards on the nature of anti matter. Please note this point of calculation would be prior to the formation of Hydrogen. Also it would be the moment when spacetime first started (recommendation on what percentage of the first second to calculate that at would be nice ) I was thinking of setting the time value at one second after the bang but that may be too large a scale.
If all the mass and energy started at a single point smaller than a proton as the big bang teaches us then that mass must have some finite value instead of an infinite value. If it has an inifinite value then there would be no limit to the amount of matter in our current space time as that matter and energy total would also be infinite. As matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Not being a physicist I need help filling in specific terms that I know have been calculated
total mass of universe today including total mass of energy/radiation including dark energy/dark matter. I have been unable to find this value but have heard statements that the total sum is zero.
for the values let's stick to the known Hubble universe using euclidian space flat geometry. one estimate I've found is 6e51 kg but that article was older I was thinking of multiplying this value by an order of 3 to cover areas beyond the Hubble universe.
then assume gravity splits from this original particle. from some super singularity. I would assume that this has been attempted before so if anyone has links or current theories that describes the material origins of the big bang please post.
I am trying to decide which makes more sense the theory of this super particle or the theory that matter derived from virtual particles that pop in and out of existence due to the Heisenburg uncertainty principle and described in some regards on the nature of anti matter. Please note this point of calculation would be prior to the formation of Hydrogen. Also it would be the moment when spacetime first started (recommendation on what percentage of the first second to calculate that at would be nice ) I was thinking of setting the time value at one second after the bang but that may be too large a scale.
If all the mass and energy started at a single point smaller than a proton as the big bang teaches us then that mass must have some finite value instead of an infinite value. If it has an inifinite value then there would be no limit to the amount of matter in our current space time as that matter and energy total would also be infinite. As matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Not being a physicist I need help filling in specific terms that I know have been calculated
total mass of universe today including total mass of energy/radiation including dark energy/dark matter. I have been unable to find this value but have heard statements that the total sum is zero.
for the values let's stick to the known Hubble universe using euclidian space flat geometry. one estimate I've found is 6e51 kg but that article was older I was thinking of multiplying this value by an order of 3 to cover areas beyond the Hubble universe.
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