To distinguish if a critical point is a saddle point or not,. .

In summary, to distinguish a critical point as a saddle point or not, it is useful to use the discriminant, which is calculated by fxxfyy-fxy^2. The multivariate version of the second derivative test from calculus can be used, where a positive second derivative indicates a minimum and a negative second derivative indicates a maximum. The discriminant matrix, D, is positive definite at a minimum and negative definite at a maximum, resulting in a positive value for the discriminant. If D has one positive and one negative eigenvalue, the discriminant is negative. This provides a basic proof for determining the type of critical point.
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To distinguish a critical point is a saddle point or not, It is useful way to use discreminent.

The discreminent is fxxfyy-fxy^2.

What I want to know is how to prove the discreminent.
 
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alexio said:
To distinguish a critical point is a saddle point or not, It is useful way to use discreminent.

The discreminent is fxxfyy-fxy^2.

What I want to know is how to prove the discreminent.

This is the multivariate version of the second derivative test from calculus. If the second derivative is positive you are at a minimum. If the second der is Negative you are at a maximum.

Let D be the discriminant matrix, and h a 2x1 column vector. At a minimum h^T*D*h>0 for all small h indicates a minimum. This is an approximation to the function. Thus, D, which is diagonalizable since it is symmetric, is positive definite. Thus, all eigenvalues are real and positive. So, the determinant of D, which is what you call the discreminent, is positive. At a maximum, D is negative definite, which means both eigenvalues are negative. Hence, the discreminent is also positive. If D is neither positive definite or negative definite, the D has one positive and one negative eigenvalue meaning the discreminent is negative.

That's the basic idea of the proof. Hope it was helpful.

Take care,
Reverie
 
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The discreminent is a useful tool for determining the nature of a critical point. It is defined as fxxfyy-fxy^2, where fxx is the second partial derivative of the function with respect to x, fyy is the second partial derivative with respect to y, and fxy is the mixed partial derivative.

To prove the discreminent, we can use the second derivative test. This test involves evaluating the second partial derivatives at the critical point and using their values to determine the nature of the critical point.

If the discreminent is positive, then the critical point is a local minimum or maximum. If it is negative, then the critical point is a saddle point. And if it is equal to zero, further analysis is needed to determine the nature of the critical point.

In summary, the discreminent is a valuable tool for distinguishing between saddle points and other types of critical points. By using the second derivative test and evaluating the discreminent, we can confidently determine the nature of a critical point.
 

Related to To distinguish if a critical point is a saddle point or not,. .

1. What is a critical point?

A critical point is a point on a graph or function where the slope (or derivative) is equal to 0. This means that the graph changes direction at this point, either from increasing to decreasing or vice versa.

2. How do you determine if a critical point is a saddle point?

To determine if a critical point is a saddle point, you need to look at the second derivative of the function at that point. If the second derivative is positive, it is a minimum point, if it is negative, it is a maximum point, and if it is zero, it is a saddle point.

3. Can a critical point be both a minimum and a maximum point?

No, a critical point can only be one of the three types: minimum, maximum, or saddle point. It cannot be both a minimum and a maximum point at the same time.

4. How does the graph of a saddle point look like?

The graph of a saddle point looks like a "saddle" shape, with one part curving up and the other part curving down. It is a point of inflection, meaning the graph changes from concave up to concave down (or vice versa) at this point.

5. Why is it important to distinguish between a saddle point and a non-saddle point?

Distinguishing between a saddle point and a non-saddle point is important because they have different implications for the behavior of the function. A saddle point indicates a point of change in direction, while a non-saddle point (minimum or maximum) indicates a point of extremum. This information is useful in understanding the behavior of the function and making predictions about its behavior in different regions.

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