Time Lapses In Two Different Reference Frames

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of time dilation and how it is affected by the relative motion of two reference frames. The solution presented uses Lorentz's transformation and the concept of invariant interval to explain why the positive root should be considered while the negative root can be dismissed. The conversation also considers the case of zero relative motion and slightly different values of β.
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Bashyboy
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Hello,

I would like to prove that the time experienced in a moving reference frame is longer than in a stationary frame. Here is my solution:

Suppose that at time t = 0 two reference frames, S and S', origins coincide; similarly, the x,y, and z axes of the S-frame overlap with the corresponding axes of the S'-frame. Now, as time begins to progress, t > 0, S' will begin moving relative to S; and the way in which it will move is such that the origin of the S'-frame will move along the positive x-axis of the S-frame, and the speed at which it will move is [itex]\displaystyle \beta = \frac{v}{c}[/itex].

Now, suppose two arbitrary events occur, one of which is A, occurring when S and S' coincide, allowing us to infer the coordinates of both frames to be S(x=0, y=0, z=0, t=0) and S'(x'=0, y'=0, z'=0, t'=0); and let the second event be B, which occurs at some later time that is not necessarily the same in both frames.

The invariant interval in S:

[itex]\Delta s^2 = (\Delta x^2 + \Delta y^2 + \Delta z^2) - \Delta t^2[/itex]

[itex]\Delta s^2 = - t_B^2[/itex]

The invariant interval in S':

[itex]\Delta s^2 = ((\Delta x^2~' + \Delta y^2~' + \Delta z^2~') - \Delta t^2~'[/itex]

[itex]\Delta s^2 = x_B^2~' - t_B^2~'[/itex]

Setting the two equal to each other,

[itex]- t_B^2 = x_B^2~' - t_B^2~'[/itex]

Eliminate [itex]x_B~'[/itex] using Lorentz's transformation, [itex]x_B~' = \gamma (x_B - \beta t_B) \implies x_B~' = - \gamma \beta t_B[/itex]

[itex]- t_B^2 = \gamma^2 \beta^2 t_B^2 - t_B^2~'[/itex]

Solving for t-prime

[itex]t_B~' = \pm \sqrt{t_B^2(1 + \gamma^2 \beta^2)}[/itex]

My question is, for what reason can I simply dismiss the negative root, keeping only the positive root?
 
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Suppose β were zero, so that the two frames coincided for all times. Would you then lend credence to the negative root? Now, if β were only slightly different from zero, would that really change things significantly? Another answer is that the metrical equations with the squares were derived directly from the Lorentz Transformation. Although these equations are non-linear (leading to your ambiguity with regard to the sign), the Lorentz Transformation is linear and eliminates that ambiguity.
 

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What is a time lapse in two different reference frames?

A time lapse in two different reference frames refers to the phenomenon where the perception of time differs between two observers who are moving at different speeds or in different gravitational fields. This is due to the theory of relativity, which states that time is relative and can be affected by factors such as speed and gravity.

What is the difference between time lapse in two different reference frames and time dilation?

Time lapse in two different reference frames and time dilation are closely related concepts. Time dilation refers to the slowing down of time for an object in motion compared to a stationary object, whereas time lapse in two different reference frames refers to the difference in the perception of time between two observers in different frames of reference. Time dilation is a specific example of time lapse in two different reference frames.

How does time lapse in two different reference frames affect the aging process?

According to the theory of relativity, time lapse in two different reference frames can affect the aging process. For example, if one twin travels at high speeds while the other stays on Earth, the twin in motion will age slower due to time dilation. This means that when they are reunited, the traveling twin will be younger than their stationary twin. This effect is only noticeable for objects moving at extremely high speeds, such as those in space.

Can time lapse in two different reference frames be observed in everyday life?

Time lapse in two different reference frames is not something that can be observed in everyday life, as the effects are only noticeable at extremely high speeds or in strong gravitational fields. However, it has been observed in experiments with atomic clocks and in satellites orbiting Earth, which experience time dilation due to their high speeds.

How does time lapse in two different reference frames impact our understanding of time?

The concept of time lapse in two different reference frames highlights the relativity of time and challenges our traditional understanding of time as a universal constant. It has greatly impacted our understanding of the universe and is a fundamental aspect of the theory of relativity. It also has practical applications in fields such as GPS technology and space travel.

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