Time dilation -- light clock on a train thought experiment

In summary, the light clock on a train thought experiment was first introduced by Albert Einstein in his 1905 paper, which used the imagery of a beam of light travelling in a perpendicular path.
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Who first came up with the light clock on a train thought experiment.
 
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It's in Einstein's original 1905 paper...
On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies. Annalen der Physik 17 (1905): 891-921.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

I think doing thought experiments in closed moving boxes dates back to Newton or further - with the kid of box being updated for different transport modes as technology changes.
 
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DAC said:
Who first came up with the light clock on a train thought experiment.
Whereabouts?
 
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Section 3.
Einstein initially works it out using light propagating in the x direction, then considers the analagous situation with propagation in the z and y directions. The freshman-physics simplification of a light-ray in a box follows naturally.
 
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Thanks but my question was who first came up with the particular light clock on a train thought experiment.
 
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Then I'm afraid you are going to have to define your terms.
The 1905 paper has a light-clock in it (a beam of light traversing a perpendicular path in the rest-frame of the source) - Einstein just does not use those words.

Are you asking who first thought to reword the description Einstein gave in the 1905 paper explicitly in terms of the "light clock" and "train" imagery - that's Einstein again ... probably first used in a lecture, but the imagery appears in his 1916 book Relativity: The Special and the General Theory.

What are you hoping to learn?
 
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I'm just surprised such a widely used thought experiment can't be attributed definitively to an author.
 
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I'm just surprised such a widely used thought experiment can't be attributed definitively to an author.
1. There are quite a lot of famous works that cannot be attributed definitively to an author.
2. this one can be definitively attributed to an author: Albert Einstein - in two forms.
 
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This question was asked before on this thread, the earliest example anyone knew of was the 1909 book The Principle of Relativity, and Non-Newtonian Mechanics by Gilbert Newton Lewis and Richard Chace Tolman, see p. 714 online here.
 
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Thanks JesseM, much appreciated.
 

Related to Time dilation -- light clock on a train thought experiment

1. What is the concept behind the light clock on a train thought experiment?

The light clock on a train thought experiment is a theoretical scenario used to illustrate the concept of time dilation, which is a phenomenon in which time passes at different rates for observers in different reference frames.

2. How does the light clock on a train thought experiment demonstrate time dilation?

In this thought experiment, a light clock consisting of a beam of light bouncing between two mirrors is placed on a train moving at a high speed relative to an observer on the ground. The observer on the ground will see the light beam traveling a longer distance between the mirrors compared to the observer on the train. According to the theory of relativity, this difference in distance results in the observer on the train perceiving time passing slower compared to the observer on the ground. This difference in the perception of time passing is known as time dilation.

3. What does the speed of light have to do with time dilation in this thought experiment?

The speed of light is a fundamental constant in the theory of relativity. It is the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This means that the speed of light is constant for both the observer on the ground and the observer on the train. However, the distance the light beam travels is different for each observer due to their relative motion, resulting in a difference in perceived time.

4. Is time dilation only applicable in this thought experiment or does it occur in real life?

Time dilation is not just a theoretical concept but has been observed and confirmed through experiments. It occurs in real life, particularly at high speeds or in the presence of strong gravitational fields. GPS systems, for example, must take into account time dilation in order to function accurately.

5. Can time dilation be reversed or controlled?

Time dilation is a natural phenomenon that occurs according to the principles of relativity. It cannot be reversed or controlled by humans. However, its effects can be mitigated by changing the relative motion between observers or by manipulating gravitational fields, as demonstrated by atomic clocks on satellites.

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