Time Dependent Semi-Major & Semi-Minor Axes in Ellipse Equation

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In summary, yes, it is possible to have time dependent semi-major and semi-minor axes in the standard form of an ellipse. However, the equation provided does not show this as the axes remain constant for all time. To have time dependent axes, the equation should have the initial coordinate separations on the top and the time variance of the separation plus sine terms on the bottom. This allows for the possibility of an object moving around the ellipse with changing speed.
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Can the semi - major and semi - minor axes of an ellipse be time dependent? More specifically, can you have time dependent semi - major and semi - minor axes present in the standard form of the ellipse? I have an equation of the form [tex]\frac{(\xi ^{1}(t))^{2} }{a^{2}} + \frac{(\xi ^{2}(t))^{2}}{b^{2}} = 1 [/tex] where [itex]\xi ^{\alpha }[/itex] are components of a separation vector, [itex]a^{2} = [2 + \frac{1}{2}sin^{2}\omega t](\xi ^{1}(0))^{2}[/itex], and [itex]b^{2} = [2 + \frac{1}{2}sin^{2}\omega t](\xi ^{2}(0))^{2}[/itex] but I don't know if the standard form can actually have time dependent semi - major and minor axes.
 
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Yes, of course. However what you are writing does NOT.
[tex]\frac{\xi^1(t))^2}{a^2}+ \frac{\xi^2(t))^2}{b^2}= 1[/tex]
is a single ellipse with axes of length a and b for all t. If t is "time", this could be interpreted as an object moving around that fixed ellipse with changing speed.

An ellipse with "time dependent sem- major and minor axes" would be
[tex]\frac{x^2}{(a(t))^2}+ \frac{y^2}{(b(t))^2}= 1[/tex]

You can add "time dependence" or dependence on any other variable at will, just by making some parameters function of that variable.
 
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An ellipse with "time dependent sem- major and minor axes" would be
[tex]\frac{x^2}{(a(t))^2}+ \frac{y^2}{(b(t))^2}= 1[/tex]
So if in the original equation, If I had the usual X and Y instead of the time dependent separation vector but with the same form of the semi - major and minor axes that I posted above then it would be allowed? Thanks for the reply.

EDIT: Never mind I get what you are saying. I think I should have had the initial coordinate separations on the top and the time variance of the separation plus the sin terms on the bottom.
 
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