Thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha

In summary: An unsolved marker would not persist.In summary, the conversation discusses finding the increment in length of a rod when heated from 300K to 600K, given the coefficient of linear expansion as 1/T. After considering a small element and integrating the expression, the correct equation is determined to be dL = LαdT. The final calculation yields an answer of 3m for the increment in length.
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Homework Statement


The coefficient of linear expansion of a rod of length 1 meter (at 300K) varies with temperature as ##\alpha=\frac{1}{T}##, where T is the temperature. Find the increment in length when the rod is heated from 300K to 600K

Homework Equations


$$\Delta L=L\alpha \Delta T$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I considered a small element of length ##dl## at a distance of ##l## from one end.
Let the elements length increase by ##dx##.
$$dx=dl\frac{2}{T}dT$$
How will I integrate the above expression
 
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Titan97 said:
dx=dl(2/T)dT
That does not balance in terms of infinitesimals. You can't equate one to a product of two.
There's no need to consider an element of length, the whole rod will expand in the same proportion.
Also, I didn't understand where the 2 came from. Should that be an alpha?
 
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I put the value of alpha. How can directly use ##\Delta L =L\alpha z
\Delta T## when alpha varies with temperature? Shouldn't I integrate?

Also, if I take a length ##l##, it will expand by ##dl=dl\frac{2}{T}dT##.
Integrating, I got the answer as ##2\ln 2##. But answer given is ##3##.
 
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Titan97 said:
I put the value of alpha. How can directly use ##\Delta L =L\alpha z
\Delta T## when alpha varies with temperature? Shouldn't I integrate?

Also, if I take a length ##l##, it will expand by ##dl=dl\frac{2}{T}dT##.
Integrating, I got the answer as ##2\ln 2##. But answer given is ##3##.
According to your original post, alpha is 1/T, but you seem to have substituted 2/T. From the given answer, 2/T is correct.
If you take L as the whole length, the increase in length, dL, equals LαdT, not dLαdT.
Please post your steps from there.
 
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Titan97: In terms of differential changes in length and temperature, the correct equation should read ##dL=\alpha L dT##. In fact, this is the truly correct equation, and the equation ##\Delta L=\alpha L \Delta T## is only an approximation.

By the way, did you mean in your original post that ##\alpha=1/T##, or did you mean ##\alpha = 2/T##?
 
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OK. So $dL=L\alpha dT$
$$\int_L^{L+\delta L}\frac{dL}{L}=\int_{T_1}^{T_2}\frac{2}{T}dT$$
$$\ln\frac{L+\delta L}{L}=2\ln\frac{T_2}{T_1}$$
 
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Titan97 said:
OK. So $dL=L\alpha dT$
$$\int_L^{L+\delta L}\frac{dL}{L}=\int_{T_1}^{T_2}\frac{2}{T}dT$$
$$\ln\frac{L+\delta L}{L}=2\ln\frac{T_2}{T_1}$$
This is the same thing as $$\frac{L+\delta L}{L}=\left(\frac{T_2}{T_1}\right)^2$$
Can you see that?
 
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Titan97 said:
OK. So $dL=L\alpha dT$
$$\int_L^{L+\delta L}\frac{dL}{L}=\int_{T_1}^{T_2}\frac{2}{T}dT$$
$$\ln\frac{L+\delta L}{L}=2\ln\frac{T_2}{T_1}$$
Right. How to get rid of the logs?
 
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@haruspex I got the same expression as @Chestermiller 's post #7.
$$\ln(x)=2\ln(y)$$
$$\ln(x)=\ln(y^2)$$
$$x=y^2$$
$$1+\frac{\delta L}{L}=(\frac{T_2}{T_1})^2$$
##T_2/T_1=2##
$$1+\frac{\delta L}{L}=4$$
$$\frac{\delta L}{L}=3$$
Since ##L=1\text{m}##
$$\delta L=3\text{m}$$
 
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Great. Please mark as solved!
 
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@haruspex I was going to mark it as solved today. But someone did that for me. I have also seen that some people can mark questions unsolved even if OP marked it as solved.
 
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Titan97 said:
@haruspex I was going to mark it as solved today. But someone did that for me. I have also seen that some people can mark questions unsolved even if OP marked it as solved.
Yes. I had marked it solved.
 
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Related to Thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha

What is thermal expansion?

Thermal expansion is the tendency of an object to expand or contract in response to changes in temperature.

What is a rod with variable alpha?

A rod with variable alpha refers to a rod made of a material whose coefficient of thermal expansion (alpha) varies with temperature.

Why is it important to study the thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha?

Studying the thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha is important because it can help us understand how different materials behave under temperature changes. This information is crucial in engineering and designing structures that can withstand thermal stress.

What factors affect the thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha?

The thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha is affected by factors such as the material composition, the temperature range, and the shape and size of the rod.

How is the thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha measured?

The thermal expansion of a rod with variable alpha can be measured using a device called a dilatometer, which measures the change in length of the rod as it is exposed to different temperatures.

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