Tension of 2 Bodies on a Frictionless Inclined Plane

In summary, the conversation discusses an exercise involving a box of dirty money and a box of laundered money connected by a cord on frictionless planes at different angles. The tension in the cord is being calculated using Newton's 2nd law and equations for force and acceleration. The conversation also points out mistakes in the attempt at a solution, such as incorrect use of negative signs and angles. The correct answer is found to be 17.4 N.
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Homework Statement



Figure 5-60 shows a box of dirty money (mass m1 = 2.7 kg) on a frictionless plane inclined at angle θ1 = 28°. The box is connected via a cord of negligible mass to a box of laundered money (mass m2 = 2.4 kg) on a frictionless plane inclined at angle θ2 = 64°. The pulley is frictionless and has negligible mass. What is the tension in the cord?

Homework Equations



F = ma

T - mgsin[tex]\Theta[/tex] = -ma

a = ( m / M + m )g

The Attempt at a Solution



Newton's 2nd law for each body:
m1: T - (2.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin28 = -(2.7 kg)a
m2: (2.4 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin68 - T = -(2.4 kg)a

Add m1 & m2: (2.4 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin68 - (2.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin28 = (2.4 + 2.7)a

Solve for a: a = 1.84

Insert a into m1: T-(2.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin28 = -(2.7 kg)(1.84 m/s2)

T = 17.4 N

However, that is not the right answer... Where am I going wrong?
 

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Why do you have a negative sign in front of the masses? If the acceleration is negative it'll come out in your answer when you solve for a. You might be counting the negatives twice. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Although you incorrectly threw in those negatives in front of the masses, you ignored that error and changed it correctly to a positive number when you did your equation additions and substitution to solve for T. Strange. But the other issue is that you copied the angle down incorrectly...the angle given is 64 degrees, but you used 68 degrees. Make that angle correction and solve for T using 2 significant figures in the result.
 
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PhanthomJay said:
Although you incorrectly threw in those negatives in front of the masses, you ignored that error and changed it correctly to a positive number when you did your equation additions and substitution to solve for T. Strange.

Then he went back to the negative

Insert a into m1: T-(2.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)sin28 = -(2.7 kg)(1.84 m/s2)
 
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Your calculations for the tensions in the cord and the acceleration of the system are correct. However, the mistake may lie in the use of the wrong angles for the inclines. The angles should be measured from the horizontal, not the vertical. Therefore, θ1 = 62° and θ2 = 26°. Recalculating using these angles should give you the correct answer for the tension in the cord.
 

Related to Tension of 2 Bodies on a Frictionless Inclined Plane

1. What is the formula for calculating the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane?

The formula for calculating the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane is T = mg(sinθ ± μcosθ), where T is the tension, m is the mass of the object, g is the acceleration due to gravity, θ is the angle of the incline, and μ is the coefficient of friction.

2. How does the angle of the incline affect the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane?

The tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane increases as the angle of the incline increases. This is because a steeper incline requires a greater force to prevent the objects from sliding down the plane.

3. What is the role of friction in calculating the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane?

Although the inclined plane is considered frictionless, the coefficient of friction still plays a role in calculating the tension. It affects the normal force on the object, which is a component of the tension formula.

4. Can the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane ever be zero?

Yes, it is possible for the tension to be zero if the angle of the incline is 0 degrees or if the coefficient of friction is 0. In these cases, the objects are not at risk of sliding down the plane, so there is no need for a tension force.

5. How does the mass of the objects affect the tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane?

The tension on two bodies on a frictionless inclined plane is directly proportional to the mass of the objects. This means that as the mass increases, the tension also increases. This is because a heavier object requires a greater force to remain stationary on the incline.

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