Summation of product identities

In summary, the conversation discusses finding a formula that relates the sum of two vectors, a and b, to another sum. The participants consider using a dot product or interpreting the a's and b's as components of vectors. They also mention the cosine of theta and finding a general formula for this type of problem.
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eddybob123
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Hi everybody, I am just trying to find a decent identity that relates the sum $$\sum_{k=0}^{n}a_kb_k$$ to another sum such that ##a_k## and ##b_k## aren't together in the same one. If you don't know what I mean, feel free to ask. If you have an answer, please post it. Thanks in advance!
 
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hi eddybob123! :smile:

that's just a·b, the inner product (dot product) of two (n+1)-dimensional vectors a and b :wink:
 
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But the a's and the b's aren't vectors, so what is the value of the ''##\cos\theta##"?
 
  • #4
You can always interpret a and b as vectors.

There is no general formula to express this as the combination of two things, where one thing just depends on all a and the other thing just depends on all b.

In formulas, there are no (general) functions f,g,h to do this:
F=f(a0,a1,...,an)
G=g(b0,b1,...,bn)
h(F,G)=your result
 
  • #5
eddybob123 said:
But the a's and the b's aren't vectors, so what is the value of the ''##\cos\theta##"?
The individual a's and b's might not be vectors, but we can think of them as components.

$$\sum_{k=0}^{n}a_{k}b_{k} = \begin{bmatrix} a_0 & a_1 & a_2 & \cdots \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} b_0 \\ b_1 \\ b_2 \\ \vdots \end{bmatrix} = \langle \vec{a},\vec{b} \rangle $$

How do we find the cosine of theta, you ask? $$\cos\theta = \frac{\displaystyle \sum_{k=0}^{n}a_{k}b_{k}}{(\sqrt{a_0^2 + a_1^2 + ...})(\sqrt{b_0^2 + b_1^2 + b_2^2 + ...})}$$
:biggrin:

To be completely serious, I am not aware of the kind of general formula you are looking for.
 
  • #6
And the magnitudes of the two vectors will be $$\sqrt{a_0{}^2+a_1{}^2+...+a_n{}^2}$$ and $$\sqrt{b_0{}^2+b_1{}^2+...+b_n{}^2}$$Is this right?
 
  • #7
yes :smile:
 

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1. What is the summation of product identities?

The summation of product identities is a mathematical concept that involves multiplying two or more numbers together and then adding the products. It is often used in algebraic expressions and equations to simplify or solve problems.

2. How is the summation of product identities different from the summation of numbers?

The summation of product identities is different from the summation of numbers because it involves multiplying numbers together before adding them, rather than just adding the numbers themselves. This allows for more complex mathematical expressions to be simplified and solved.

3. What are some common product identities used in summation?

Some common product identities used in summation include the distributive property, the associative property, and the commutative property. These identities help to rearrange and manipulate the terms in an algebraic expression in order to simplify it.

4. How do you use the summation of product identities in real-world applications?

The summation of product identities can be used in various real-world applications, such as in finance to calculate compound interest or in physics to calculate the work done by a variable force. It can also be used to model and analyze data in fields such as economics, biology, and engineering.

5. What are some tips for effectively using the summation of product identities?

Some tips for effectively using the summation of product identities include understanding the properties and rules of algebra, practicing with different examples, and breaking down larger expressions into smaller, simpler ones. It can also be helpful to double-check your work and simplify your final answer if possible.

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