Subgroup of given order of an Abelian group

In summary, the conversation discusses the existence of cyclic subgroups and elements of a given order in groups, specifically in Abelian groups. While it is true that if an element of a certain order exists, there will also be a cyclic subgroup of that order, the converse is not always true for non-Abelian groups. However, for Abelian groups, this may hold true. The conversation ends with an example of an elementary Abelian 2-group and a thank you.
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We know that if there exists an element of a given order in a group, there also exists a cyclic subgroup of that order. What about converse?
Suppose there is a subgroup of an Abelian group of order 'm'. Does that imply there also exists an element of order 'm' in the Group. It does not hold in general for Non-Abelian groups. But what about Abelian groups?
 
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Suppose that were true. what if m = |G|?
 
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siddhuiitb said:
Hey!
We know that if there exists an element of a given order in a group, there also exists a cyclic subgroup of that order. What about converse?
Suppose there is a subgroup of an Abelian group of order 'm'. Does that imply there also exists an element of order 'm' in the Group. It does not hold in general for Non-Abelian groups. But what about Abelian groups?

Take a look at an elementary Abelian 2 -group of order greater than 2 e.g. Z/2 x Z/2 x Z/2.
 
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Thanks!:smile:
 
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Hello!

Yes, in the case of Abelian groups, the converse is also true. If there exists a subgroup of order 'm', then there also exists an element of order 'm' in the group. This is because in Abelian groups, all subgroups are normal, meaning that the subgroup and its cosets form an equivalence class. Since the subgroup has order 'm', each coset will have 'm' elements, and therefore, there will be an element of order 'm' in the group. This is a result of the fundamental theorem of Abelian groups. So, in summary, for Abelian groups, the existence of a subgroup of a given order implies the existence of an element of that order in the group.
 

Related to Subgroup of given order of an Abelian group

What is a subgroup of a given order of an Abelian group?

A subgroup of a given order of an Abelian group is a subset of the group that forms a smaller group with the same operation as the original group. The order of a subgroup is the number of elements in the subgroup.

How do you determine the order of a subgroup of an Abelian group?

The order of a subgroup can be determined by finding the number of elements in the subgroup. This can be done by listing out all the elements in the subgroup or by using the Lagrange's theorem, which states that the order of a subgroup must divide the order of the original group.

What is the significance of subgroups in Abelian groups?

Subgroups are important in Abelian groups as they allow for the study of smaller groups within a larger group. They also help in understanding the structure and properties of the original group, as well as in solving problems related to the group.

Can a subgroup of an Abelian group have a different operation than the original group?

No, a subgroup of an Abelian group must have the same operation as the original group. This is because the operation is what defines the group, and changing the operation would result in a different group altogether.

What is the relationship between the order of a subgroup and the order of the original group?

The order of a subgroup must always be a divisor of the order of the original group. This is known as Lagrange's theorem and is true for any group, not just Abelian groups.

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